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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's the unemployment rate doing now?
    Lagging indicator....

    What about that 17% dump in house sales?
    What about it?

    Yeah, your boy's doing a fiiiine job at fixing the economy. Now, he wants a jobs bill? How many billions will that cost, with no return?
    First off he is not "my boy". Secondly, the alternative of which you propose did not work during a past recession. This was prior to the implosion of the the consumer debt bubble (negative savings rates). Therefore supply side economics will not fix a demand orientated dilemma.

    What's the reaction to Obamacare?
    Nothing compared to the cost of health care inflation. This is a fact APDST.

    And all you have are insults and an undocumented stat that doesn't mean **** anyway?
    What insult have i given you? Consumer confidence means nothing? Than why is it reported?
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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    Well the last one worked perfectly. $800B of political patronage was a dream come true for Obama.
    How much of the $800 billion has been appropriated? Secondly, what does a weaker dollar achieve in regards to imports?

    Forget about the unemployment rate, it doesn't mean anything, even though 7 million jobs were lost, we actually created 2 million. Why wouldn't we do that again?
    You cannot deny the psychological effect of the worlds biggest economies rushing to offer stimulus packages.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Lagging indicator....
    Why is going up?...lol



    What about it?
    Oh, so in Liberal-land, negative numbers don't count. Right?



    First off he is not "my boy". Secondly, the alternative of which you propose did not work during a past recession. This was prior to the implosion of the the consumer debt bubble (negative savings rates). Therefore supply side economics will not fix a demand orientated dilemma.
    The government can't create jobs. Any attempt to do so will be a debacle.



    Nothing compared to the cost of health care inflation. This is a fact APDST.
    Obamacare isn't going to fix that problem and most of the country knows it.



    What insult have i given you? Consumer confidence means nothing? Than why is it reported?
    Let's see a link.
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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    How much of the $800 billion has been appropriated? Secondly, what does a weaker dollar achieve in regards to imports?
    The dollar statement is odd and cryptic. There was a decline in dollar value as foreign investors exited from treasuries they had rushed into during the panic days of the recession. I don't know what that has to do with Obama's policy.

    You cannot deny the psychological effect of the worlds biggest economies rushing to offer stimulus packages.[/QUOTE]

    Psychological effects like long term interest rates floating up until the fed started buying longer dated treasuries instead of just acting in the repo market like they normally do? No I don't deny those.
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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is it going up?...lol
    Cyclical unemployment tends to lag overall market sentiment. After firms shore up their balance sheets, they will tend to invest in capital first, and labor second (unless they can get a steal of a deal ). Once capital investment plateaus, unemployment will go down.

    Oh, so in Liberal-land, negative numbers don't count. Right?
    Now im a liberal? I swear every day i get called a "righty" or a "lefty" by both sides of the spectrum. Usually it is by those on the extreme ends of the field. Housing slumped this month, i can agree. I do not believe it will continue to fall.

    But what is the end result of higher prices?

    The government can't create jobs. Any attempt to do so will be a debacle.
    What did the government do during WWII? Did it create jobs?

    Obamacare isn't going to fix that problem and most of the country knows it.
    Opinionated

    Let's see a link.
    I made a thread yesterday, you must not have been reading to closely....

    Here is a nice link here ya go
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Why do you bother calling yourself a libertarian when it's obvious that you are a Democrat?
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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    CBS poll is fake from the word go. Look at this from 1 hour ago; The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17.

    This as bad as Obama has done in a real poll. He once again said me or I over 100 times. This guy's is so full of shiitte his eye are brown.

    In his latest BS speech Obama has said the same lies and misstated the facts as he always does.

    You're going to have to look long and hard to find anyone in history with worse record. Fact is you can save yourself the effort bacause he is without a doubt tha worst ever and it will be along time before there is anyone as bad.

    The first Black man in the office has made it near impossible for another to be elected, and the is thing is, it's not because he's half black. It's because he's an incompetent amateur.

    When reality finally sets in that you can't cover a lie with a bigger one people like Chris Mathews and Kieth Obermann will going the unemployment ranks and ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN, will join the the Obamedia New Papers going out of business.

    Wake up America Obama is Anti-American and he is taught by the Cult he was raised in that to lie to infidels is rewarded. Nothing he says or does is true or in the best interest of WE THE PEOPLE, unless you're a Liberal Socialist/Communist who also hates what America was founded on.

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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    The dollar statement is odd and cryptic.
    As was its intention Stimulus dollars combined with a decreasing marginal propensity to consume foreign goods gives a better multiplier. I was just testing your awareness.

    There was a decline in dollar value as foreign investors exited from treasuries they had rushed into during the panic days of the recession. I don't know what that has to do with Obama's policy.
    Partly. We also began printing quite a bit of those damn dollars

    Psychological effects like long term interest rates floating up until the fed started buying longer dated treasuries instead of just acting in the repo market like they normally do? No I don't deny those.
    If you want to discuss monetary policy, then by all means. However i believe the initial discussion was centered on fiscal policy with a very small underpinning of monetary policy.

    Gov'ment does nothing, people panic. End of story!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Cyclical unemployment tends to lag overall market sentiment. After firms shore up their balance sheets, they will tend to invest in capital first, and labor second (unless they can get a steal of a deal ). Once capital investment plateaus, unemployment will go down.
    We've been hearing how unemployment is a lagging indicator for months now and all it seems to be doing is going up.





    But what is the end result of higher prices?
    In a recession? It means fewer purchses.



    What did the government do during WWII? Did it create jobs?
    So, you advocate starting a global war?



    Opinionated
    Nope! Sorry.



    I made a thread yesterday, you must not have been reading to closely....

    Here is a nice link here ya go
    [/quote]

    You gave us Christmas numbers as proof of recovery? Of course the CCI is going to go up a measely four points in December.
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    Re: First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    Why do you bother calling yourself a libertarian when it's obvious that you are a Democrat?
    Why do you bother contemplating my political ideology when you haven't the slightest clue of where it stems?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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