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Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

No offense, brother, but you're an officer. You don't know your boys as well as you think you do.

Oh I think I know more than you think, since I was a private once.

I know disdain for O's is common. I was that way as a young man.

I know that PFC Schmedlap thinks we "just don't get it".

It doesn't mean I don't care.
 
Oh I think I know more than you think, since I was a private once.

I know disdain for O's is common. I was that way as a young man.

I know that PFC Schmedlap thinks we "just don't get it".

It doesn't mean I don't care.

There is and expression in the Navy..Never trust a Mustang........I was offered a commision to 0-2 LTJG but I turned it down....They wanted me to extend my enlistment and go to Officers Candidate school.....I was already the best rank in the Navy...Chief Petty Officer E7.......
 
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There is and expression in the Navy..Never trust a Mustang........I was offered a commision to 0-2 LTJG but I turned it down....They wanted me to extend my enlistment and go to Officers Candidate school.....I was already the best rank in the Navy...Chief Petty Officer E7.......

Yes, that's good. NCOs are needed and are the backbone of the service. Nothing gets done without them.

However, without officers, the military would be chaos. I think we all know this.

When I had a chance for a commission, I took it. I'm glad I did.
 
Yes, that's good. NCOs are needed and are the backbone of the service. Nothing gets done without them.

However, without officers, the military would be chaos. I think we all know this.

When I had a chance for a commission, I took it. I'm glad I did.


E7 CPO is unique in the Navy...when your and E6 you are lucky if and officer will give you the time of day...Most of them treat E4 thru E6the same but when you become E7 you become all knowing to the same officers.......You have your own quarters and mess......You are with a bunch of other chiefs who are basically the same age as you and the officers depend on you for everything......You eat better then the officers and you don't have to put up with a bunch of 02 and 03s and I made plenty of money..........It was the right choice for me in the Navy I am not sure about other services if I had been in one..............
 
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Pelosi may wait on 'Don't Ask' vote | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

We’ve done a heavy lift, and I don’t know,” Pelosi told reporters. “I’ll have to examine it. We’ll take a look. We’ll sit down together and see. What is the advantage of going first with legislation? Or would the legislation more aptly reflect what is in the review? Or is it a two step-process?”

The legislation should come first if you think it's a rights issue, Nancy. Perhaps the new Speaker sat in 2011(I pray), will be able to make a decision.

What a :joke:
 
A liar is a little rough, maybe just standing behind their boss.Have you never did anything in your life that maybe you did not agree with it but it was your boss's idea?

But I could call a Naval Officer a liar and have done so.........You lefties are doing it again though......Please remember this thread is not about me.............

If that were all it was, he wouldn't announce it as his PERSONAL OPINION. I think there is a bit of denial going on by those trying to ignore his position.
 
I worked for the Navy for 42 years and while working for NAVSEA as a civilian I went to sea on Aircraft Carriers.........Even now I talk to crew members a few days a week......I belong to 3 organizations of retired vets........I am tired of repeating the same thing over and over again......Please take some notes.....thanks

Well, I've tried like hell to get an honest answer from you about when you last "lived and slept and ate and showered, elbow to elbow, 24/7" with others in the military, but you just don't seem to have an honest bone in your body.

One can only wonder if you were this evasive, intransigent, and dishonest with your fellow sailors.
 
Well, I've tried like hell to get an honest answer from you about when you last "lived and slept and ate and showered, elbow to elbow, 24/7" with others in the military, but you just don't seem to have an honest bone in your body.

One can only wonder if you were this evasive, intransigent, and dishonest with your fellow sailors.

21 Years active duty.....
 
You continue to prove my point by not answering the question put to you. :roll:

I apologize but you have to understand I have a dozen left wingers like you bugging me on several threads.....Most of the questions like the one you asked I have answered somewhere in the thread........Please bear with me.....thanks
 
I apologize but you have to understand I have a dozen left wingers like you bugging me on several threads.....Most of the questions like the one you asked I have answered somewhere in the thread........Please bear with me.....thanks

Please. I've asked the question repeatedly and you've repeatedly responded to my posts with dodges and excuses, all the while never answering the question.

And, I note, you STILL haven't answered the question. :roll:
 
21 Years active duty.....

My active duty was more recent than yours, so it's more relevant(did you know I was in junior high school when you retired?). Or course, my service is actually for the most part irrelevant, and yours too. Neither of us knows what the troops today think from personal experience.
 
A liar is a little rough, maybe just standing behind their boss.Have you never did anything in your life that maybe you did not agree with it but it was your boss's idea?

He was careful to say that it was his own personal opinion, not an official one.

But I could call a Naval Officer a liar and have done so.........You lefties are doing it again though......Please remember this thread is not about me.............

Please stop yammering about lefties and libs. This is not about ideology, nor do you know mine very well.
 
So you have a problem with Roman Catholics and their so called secrecy huh?

I'm not surprised that you completely and totally miss the point.

Do you think it would be okay for the Navy to ban Catholics from service? No? Why not?
 
there is no comparison...........

I am not saying that discrimination against gays is as severe as discrimination against blacks. I am saying that it is just as wrong.
 
I frankly don't care if sexual orientation is a choice or if it is less severe than how people treated blacks in the day, I think it really says a lot about a person when they think they are justified to treat other people like **** just because they don't like who those people sleep with. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to go around telling other people that you feel better and more righteous than them just because you sleep with someone with different equipment? Rather than focusing on the innumerable ways we are the same, some people just have focus on the few ways in which we are different and make an issue of it How does it harm you or them?
 
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Please. I've asked the question repeatedly and you've repeatedly responded to my posts with dodges and excuses, all the while never answering the question.

And, I note, you STILL haven't answered the question. :roll:

Hell I don't even know what the question is anymore....
 
My active duty was more recent than yours, so it's more relevant(did you know I was in junior high school when you retired?). Or course, my service is actually for the most part irrelevant, and yours too. Neither of us knows what the troops today think from personal experience.

I was aboard a carrier this morning and had breakfast in the Chiefs quarters and discussed DADT with several of my fellow chiefs and to a man they said they can not speak for other services but it won't work for the Navy.........
 
My active duty was more recent than yours, so it's more relevant(did you know I was in junior high school when you retired?). Or course, my service is actually for the most part irrelevant, and yours too. Neither of us knows what the troops today think from personal experience.

I am sure you have heard that when you make chief its for life...........
 
I was aboard a carrier this morning and had breakfast in the Chiefs quarters and discussed DADT with several of my fellow chiefs and to a man they said they can not speak for other services but it won't work for the Navy.........

I doubt this, but even if true, it's not their call. We all have to deal with things we don't want. Being an adult is dealing with it.
 
I am sure you have heard that when you make chief its for life...........

And if I met you in real life, I would probably call you "chief"...or "senior" or whatever is appropriate. However, that has nothing to do with the attitudes of most people in the military.
 
I was aboard a carrier this morning and had breakfast in the Chiefs quarters and discussed DADT with several of my fellow chiefs and to a man they said they can not speak for other services but it won't work for the Navy.........

And again, this does not mean much. Most people in the navy are not chiefs, and in fact are much younger. Younger people have a much more relaxed attitude towards gays. Anecdotal evidence is not worth a whole lot.
 
He was careful to say that it was his own personal opinion, not an official one.



Please stop yammering about lefties and libs. This is not about ideology, nor do you know mine very well.

I can't help it......I am sorry it bothers you to be called a lefty when that is what you are, in fact, from what I have seen on your posts you are about as far to the left as DD, and I never thought I would see that after 26 champs was banned in 2005...........

The president say **** and senior officers drop their pants, squat and say where..........Off the record they might have a different opinion................You would know that if you ever served
 
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