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Navy Pride said:
Yeah if they break the law.......I know some of you lefties don't like it but we are a nation of laws..........
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It has been a while in this nation since it was illegal to be homosexual.

Try and stay on topic......
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I am on topic talking about gays serving in the military. And your lack of respect for exceptional Officers that are gay as well as exceptional female officers is duly noted.
 
winston53660 said:
It has been a while in this nation since it was illegal to be homosexual.
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Really, how long has sodomy been against the UCMJ, in the military Sir, homosexual behavior is illegal.

I am on topic talking about gays serving in the military.
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And their behavior, for a while, has been illegal, correct?
 
Charles Martel said:
Really, how long has sodomy been against the UCMJ, in the military Sir, homosexual behavior is illegal.
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He did not say the UCMJ.



And their behavior, for a while, has been illegal, correct?
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Great so now Officers of distinction gay or straight can get kicked out for getting a BJ:roll:
 
Navy Pride said:
Like I have said many times....what consenting adults do in private is none of my business nor is it yours.........
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so you're okay with gays in the navy then, right?
 
Navy Pride said:
Well the status quo worked great in my 20 years of service but then we did not have to worry about some female accusing us of sexual harrassment if we looked at her the wrong way because there were no females aboard ships.......God knows we had our problems at sea on ships that were not floating cities with all the comforts of home but that was not one of them.........

And as far as gays usually every couple of months one could not control himself and was put on report, court martialed and discharged with a undesireable or bad conduct discharge.....I heard they are giving gays guys these days honorable discharges....what is with that?
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No it did not Navy. The military is always changing and evolving. Even during your 20 years.
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah, what a crock, Officers with distinguised records forced to resign or be demoted..................
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Forced to resign or demoted due to their own actions or inactions.
 
So is there some other way of getting expelled from the military other than "homosexual conduct". Because as far as I know there is no "Is homosexual" discharge, unless my XO tried to screw me over by putting "homosexual conduct" on my record which makes them all damned dirty liars.:doh

Cause seriously, homosexual conduct involves two or more discharges?

Anyways, rainbows for everyone!
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah, 14,000 discharges since 1993......I already posted the link.....If your to lazy to go back and read it then that is on you.........I am not looking it up again........
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Well, there's nearly 600 posts here. And as what you claim is the number of discharges above, and not why they were discharges, could you at least give me the number of the post you posted it on? And does it break it down?
 
SE102 said:
So is there some other way of getting expelled from the military other than "homosexual conduct". Because as far as I know there is no "Is homosexual" discharge, unless my XO tried to screw me over by putting "homosexual conduct" on my record which makes them all damned dirty liars.:doh

Cause seriously, homosexual conduct involves two or more discharges?

Anyways, rainbows for everyone!
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It's conduct unbecoming due to violation of DADT policy.
 
Lame, i think i got screwed over, hopefully it doesn't mess with me trying to get a job in the future.:(:doh
 
Charles Martel said:
Really, how long has sodomy been against the UCMJ, in the military Sir, homosexual behavior is illegal.



And their behavior, for a while, has been illegal, correct?
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The only way to get kicked out for sodomy is to be caught engaging in sodomy. Being gay does not necessarily mean engaging in sodomy, and you can engage in sodomy without being gay. The sodomy issue is a red herring, and nor relevant to the topic.
 
SE102 said:
Lame, i think i got screwed over, hopefully it doesn't mess with me trying to get a job in the future.:(:doh
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I am not familiar with your details. What type discharge did you get?
 
Article... chapter 15? US army, homosexual conduct with a general discharge (not honorable or dishonorable)

I joined while undiagnosed bipolar and in a bipolar mania then when i got there the delusions got too strong and saying I was gay was my plan to split. I should've just gotten a psych eval. But I didn't think it would work. So i went the surefire method.
 
SE102 said:
Article... chapter 15? US army, homosexual conduct with a general discharge (not honorable or dishonorable)

I joined while undiagnosed bipolar and in a bipolar mania then when i got there the delusions got too strong and saying I was gay was my plan to split. I should've just gotten a psych eval. But I didn't think it would work. So i went the surefire method.
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Other than honorable probably. It can effect you in the civilian world, but probably won't. You may have issues getting jobs with government contractors.
 
There is no text under what type of discharge it is, it is definitely not an "other than honorable" and certainly not an honorable either.

Im not sure if I plan on working for a government contractor... =\
 
SE102 said:
There is no text under what type of discharge it is, it is definitely not an "other than honorable" and certainly not an honorable either.

Im not sure if I plan on working for a government contractor... =\
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well than I have no clue, sorry.
 
SE102 said:
So is there some other way of getting expelled from the military other than "homosexual conduct". Because as far as I know there is no "Is homosexual" discharge, unless my XO tried to screw me over by putting "homosexual conduct" on my record which makes them all damned dirty liars.:doh

Cause seriously, homosexual conduct involves two or more discharges?

Anyways, rainbows for everyone!
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PM me. I'm an expert at chaptering people out of the Army.
 
winston53660 said:
It has been a while in this nation since it was illegal to be homosexual.



I am on topic talking about gays serving in the military. And your lack of respect for exceptional Officers that are gay as well as exceptional female officers is duly noted.
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1. That is a good thing.....your point is?:confused:
 
winston53660 said:
Yeah but it is okay if Officers with distinguished records to be kicked out for simply being gay right NP?
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Like I said if they break the law they should be discharged enlisted or officer...I don't know how I can be any clearer then that.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Not if its from a female...........
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Actually yes. Sodomy is oral or anal sex(and the military definition includes bestiality). Both are practices used by strait people.

Further, many gays prefer mutual masturbation for their sex life, which is not sodomy. Sodomy is a complete red herring in any DADT discussion.
 
Redress said:
Forced to resign or demoted due to their own actions or inactions.
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as adults and in private with mutual consent.........I have heard that woman had and agenda and it was to take Tailhook down and she is not as lilywhite innocent as she put on........
 
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Navy Pride said:
I know and not for all the best either...............
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Well no, but largely for the better. There have been some mistakes, but overall, the military is constantly improving, learning from past mistakes. The military has not and does not stick with the status quo.
 
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