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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Huh? Where did that come from? Are you assuming that gays have to "make an unwanted advance" on someone to get kicked out?

    So, there is slack when someone gets kicked out. How is that good for the service?



    Don't you think your sailor buddies are a little tougher than falling apart, letting the Navy go to hell?

    If all service men/women are "ordered" to accept gays and lesbians... won't they obey those orders?

    As far as that "mass exodus": It hasn't happened in other countries who made this move. I suspect our military is tougher than all of them and we will lose hardly any.

    Thanks for hanging in there Navy.
    YW, I enjoy the tussle with Libs I could call in reinforcements, there are a lot of good conservatives in DP that feel as I do..

    Its not a question of being tougher......it just there are a lot of guys that don't want this distraction and feel this is not what the military is for....For Liberals to use the military for a social experiment is outrageous...There are those that it is a religeous matter and they to don't want to be around gays.......There are those guys from the south who flat just hate gays,,,,,,,I guess you don't have them in the army.......

    You put all those things together and you get caous, at least in the navy.......Have you ever been aboard a navy destroyer....You probably have 100 bunks 3 or 4 high about the size of your living room..........you have 100 guys living here dressing and undressing together elbow to elbow......you have a head with 4 toilets 4 showers for this 100 men......its not a condusive situation for gay and straight men to live together....I have already talked to senior POs and chiefs who say they will take early retirement rather then live under these conditions........The conditions are already horrible and to add this other element to it is insane......

    I personally think it will never happen.......the liberals in congress do not have the votes now and they are to chicken**** to take the vote now anyway....It is believed that the Republicans will gain seats in the november mid terms so that will make it worse.......

    Contrary to what they say I don't believe Adm Mullen or SECDEF Gates want it either.........we shall see what happens.......
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ah, we used to love people like you. We could have them searching for hours for the bowling alley. Sorry Navy, but a carrier's space is mostly taken up by things related to either storage for supplies needed by 6k people, or by stuff for aircraft. I still slept in a coffin rack, still had no space, our shop was 10 x 8 feet, with the overhead sloped so you could only stand in half of it. The only thing all that size did for us is make getting from one end of the ship to the other take longer.
    Redress I have been on every Carrier in the Fleet.......They have all been to PSNS for Overhaul......I have alloted the money for habitability for the officers and crew on these ships.......I have eaten in the Wardroom, the CPO and Crews mess......I have seen the Officers state rooms the Chiefs Quarters and the Crews living compartments...I have actually been in the berthing spaces of the females............

    Living on a carrier and a destroyer is like night and day........I went out to sea for sea trials on the eisenhower and I did not even know we were underway........I sent email to my wife and children and talked to them on the phone and on web cams person to person.........You did not have these luxuries ona destroyer..On the destroyer I was on we ran out of milk and fresh vegetable after a week.......You always knew when you were underway...Sometimes it got so rough you could not get out of your rack........The only people that got up were the watch......We use to bounce around like a dixie cup.......e younger sailors were all getting sea sick and thought they were going to die...........When deployed we would get mail about twice a month.......I had a swap lined up to the USS LEXINGTON (CVT-16)...If I would have taken it I would of had my own stateroom as a E6.......There is no comparison..
    I apologize to all you libs for getting off topic..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Correction: What it WAS like. You haven't seen active duty for two or three decades, isn't that right?
    I worked for the Navy for 42 years and while working for NAVSEA as a civilian I went to sea on Aircraft Carriers.........Even now I talk to crew members a few days a week......I belong to 3 organizations of retired vets........I am tired of repeating the same thing over and over again......Please take some notes.....thanks
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No offense, brother, but you're an officer. You don't know your boys as well as you think you do.
    I did not want to say that but when I was in the Navy the men that worked for me rarely spoke to the division officer.........They talked to me........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I was subject to the draft and served my country, in a non-military role, but served my country none the less. My brother was on an aircraft carrier and my Dad was a tank Commander with the 13 Armored Division(do you know how cozy it was in one the WWII tanks?)

    As I understand it, Redress served honorably. As did many others who have a different perspective on gays in the military than yourself. I'm not real sure what your problem is with gays in the military. Wouldn't any type of sexual misconduct result in diciplinary action, regardless of sexual orientation?
    I really don't want to discuss this with you as a fellow Conservative because you are in the small minority who favors this.... ..........We are basically talking about DADT not misconduct......
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Contrary to what they say I don't believe Adm Mullen or SECDEF Gates want it either.
    So Mullen's a liar? You calling a Naval officer a liar?

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I really don't want to discuss this with you as a fellow Conservative because you are in the small minority who favors this
    That remains to be seen. Certainly, the military generals are significant players here. Just like earlier attempts to impose segregation in the military that were eventually phased out, so will this be phased out.

    It is a positive sign of our evolution as a society.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So Mullen's a liar? You calling a Naval officer a liar?
    A liar is a little rough, maybe just standing behind their boss.Have you never did anything in your life that maybe you did not agree with it but it was your boss's idea?

    But I could call a Naval Officer a liar and have done so.........You lefties are doing it again though......Please remember this thread is not about me.............
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    Catawba;1058537250]That remains to be seen. Certainly, the military generals are significant players here. Just like earlier attempts to impose segregation in the military that were eventually phased out, so will this be phased out.[/B]

    It is a positive sign of our evolution as a society.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    .........You lefties are doing it again though......Please remember this thread is not about me.............
    That's the point though Navy....YOU make it about YOU because you claim to be the spokesman for the Navy.

    Maybe the Navy was what it was when you were there, but decades later, the military is much more tolerant of diversity than they were in your generation.
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