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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Where did he say that?

    Silence or I'll send my nephew's scout troop up there and take over your country.
    We already tried that in 1812. We failed.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We already tried that in 1812. We failed.
    Actually I think the moose would handle a boy scout group.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Actually I think the moose would handle a boy scout group.
    Palin will come in from behind and handle the moose.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Actually I think the moose would handle a boy scout group.
    Your ignorance of what Canadian armed forces are actually like is really unimpressive. Tell me, do you think they wear beaver hats in Afghanistan? I bet you've never even met a Canadian. Do you think they're like the French? Wait, don't answer that "soccerboy22". I bet you think they went over there with coats. Eh?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    I love to see people totally misread a straightforward comment.
    "Muslims are OBLIGATED to raid the lands of the infidels, occupy them, and exchange their systems of governance for an Islamic system. . .They say that our sharia does not impose our particular beliefs upon others; this is a false assertion. For it is, in fact, part of our religion to IMPOSE our particular beliefs upon others." -bin Laden

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your ignorance of what Canadian armed forces are actually like is really unimpressive. Tell me, do you think they wear beaver hats in Afghanistan? I bet you've never even met a Canadian. Do you think they're like the French? Wait, don't answer that "soccerboy22". I bet you think they went over there with coats. Eh?
    Actually my godparents are Canadian and I have been there many times. It was more of a joke. I will admit that I am not as familiar with the Canadian Armed forces and I am the the U.S., but I do know they are no joking matter. As a matter of fact when I was in Halifax two summer ago I had the pleasure of meeting some Canadian soldiers and I have nothing, but the highest respect for them.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    I love to see people totally misread a straightforward comment.
    I love trolls. You'll be banned soon enough.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I don't know about all of that. I think Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy.
    Yea, what does Colin Powell know about military policy?

    Obama should just get rid of it. Once it's gone it's unlikely another President would bring it back.
    Maybe we should conduct a thorough analysis before we make radical alterations to our military. Just a thought...

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    The biggest problem I have with this is that it will add up to a bunch more equal oppertunity and anti harrassment briefs that I have to go to instead of being out training. Anyone who has been in the Army in the last 15 years knows exactly what I am talking about. Civilians would never belive how much time is wasted in the Army doing this crap.
    It's just as bad in the Marines. I can't believe how many different "briefs" I had to sit through...

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, what does Colin Powell know about military policy?
    I wonder what some other military experts say on this. You know about the Rand Corp study for the Pentagon which stated that it DADT could be eliminated with no problems, as you and I have discussed that, so we will skip it, even though it is the most authoritative look at the subject. Lets go to Gen. John Shalikashvili, former chairman of the JCS:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/op...vili.html?_r=1

    When I was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I supported the current policy because I believed that implementing a change in the rules at that time would have been too burdensome for our troops and commanders...

    I now believe that if gay men and lesbians served openly in the United States military, they would not undermine the efficacy of the armed forces. Our military has been stretched thin by our deployments in the Middle East, and we must welcome the service of any American who is willing and able to do the job.
    Then we find out that there are alot more military "brass" in favor of it's repeal 104 retired military brass against 'don't ask-don't tell' - CNN.com

    More than 100 retired U.S. military leaders -- including the former head of the Naval Academy -- have signed a statement calling for an end to the military's "don't ask-don't tell" policy, according to a California-based think tank that supports the movement.
    Then there is the famous Zogby poll of servicemembers who served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan: Zogby International

    . According to the new Zogby data, however, nearly three in four troops (73%) say they are personally comfortable in the presence of gays and lesbians. Of the 20% who said they are uncomfortable around gays and lesbians, only 5% are "very" uncomfortable, while 15% are "somewhat" uncomfortable. Just two percent of troops said knowing that gays are not allowed to serve openly was an important reason in their decision to join the military.
    I have a world of respect for Colin Powell, but that does not mean I think he is always right, and in this case, I think he is dead wrong. I have not seen any evidence that repeal of DADT and allowing gays to serve in the military will lead to any problems. Further, as we already know, gays are in the military, and lets go back to that Zogby poll one more time:

    Of those in combat units, 21% said they know for certain that someone in their unit is gay or lesbian, slightly less than for those in combat support units (25%) and combat service support units (22%). One in five troops (20%) in other units said they know for certain someone is gay or lesbian in their unit. Overall, nearly half (45%) say there are people in their unit they suspect are gay or lesbian, but they don't know for sure.
    Get that? Almost half already know some one they think is gay, and yet we still have the most effective military in the world, and all the morale and discipline problems that some predict just are not there.
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