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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No it happed in Vegas..........I have talked to a lot of air dale officers who attended Tail Hook every year and they told me that woman who complained was just in the wrong place at the wrong time...........

    What happened is the men formed a line and the women tried to get through it and both loved it............No one ever complained until this one woman came along and by her actions she ruined many officers good records......


    Those kind of things go on in the Navy....Peopke work hard and play hard.......I am not saying I condone what was happening every year but it was with consenting adults...............
    Navy, she was groped and fondled against her will. The actions that ruined those reputations where the actions of those who acted inappropriately.

    Now, can you prove that there was no sexual harassment in the navy before women could do ship duty as you claimed?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You don't get discharged under DADT for sexual harassment. You get discharged under DADT because your command discovered you are gay. If you commit sexual harassment, it's a whole separate and serious issue. You might still get put out under DADT, but just because it is easier.
    Sexual harrassment can be a whole bunch of things, for example a gay guy telling a straight one what a great package he has.........That is sexual harrassment and is enough to prove the guy is gay and if it continued he would be discharged under DADT..............
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Sexual harrassment can be a whole bunch of things, for example a gay guy telling a straight one what a great package he has.........That is sexual harrassment and is enough to prove the guy is gay and if it continued he would be discharged under DADT..............
    Yes that is sexual harassment. Now about that claim you made...
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by towski View Post
    I'm sure some thought that society wasn't "ready" for civil rights. Sometimes, you just have to shake the tree. I have enough faith in the military members to know they will adapt just fine. Like so many other things, eventually this will fall into the "what was the big deal" catagory.
    No one has a "civil right" to wear the nation's uniform.

    People are rejected all the time for physical infirmities and behavioral issues.

    Homosexuality is a behavioral issue.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You cite some overseas poll that is clueless about what goes on in the U.S. Military, for all we know they were polling some foreign military...............I couldn't let you get away with that one.................
    Look at your own link Navy....did you bother to read it before posting it. Let me help you...Here is the text of YOUR link:

    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Navy, she was groped and fondled against her will. The actions that ruined those reputations where the actions of those who acted inappropriately.

    Now, can you prove that there was no sexual harassment in the navy before women could do ship duty as you claimed?
    I told you she just happened to bein the wrong place at the wrong time......She was naive and it was her first time at tailhook and she did not know what was ging one there and that a bunch of naval aviators (Both men and women) got drunk and partied..............

    If you did not have women aboard ship then you tell me how there can be sexual harrassment?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No one has a "civil right" to wear the nation's uniform.

    People are rejected all the time for physical infirmities and behavioral issues.

    Homosexuality is a behavioral issue.
    Being in the military is a privilege not a right..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes that is sexual harassment. Now about that claim you made...
    what claim was that? you have to understand I am arguing with about 10 of you lefties at the same time most who have never served this country and have no clue what its like to be stationed aboard ship and I am not talking about a floating city that has all the comforts of home..........

    Some of us served where there were no computers, email or phones to call home..........where if the mail caught up with you that you might get a letter once a month from your family.........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I told you she just happened to bein the wrong place at the wrong time......She was naive and it was her first time at tailhook and she did not know what was ging one there and that a bunch of naval aviators (Both men and women) got drunk and partied..............

    If you did not have women aboard ship then you tell me how there can be sexual harrassment?
    Navy, drunk is not an excuse. She was forcibly groped and fondled. There is no way to spin that into something minor.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you know that before they allowed women aboard ships we had no cses of sexual harrassment now every time a guy looks at a woman its sexual harrassment.............
    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    what claim was that?
    I am willing to bet that before women could serve on ship, there was sexual harassment. You made the claim, not back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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