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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...if you had been following along you would know that.

    Navy, himself posted an article which cited that the vast majority of the military have stated that they have no problem with allowing gay men and women to serve in the military....

    And yet...he still trys to argue that the military rejects it.

    What does this argument suggest to you?

    Seems to me that Navy is trying to say that although military members state openly that they support the ability of gay men and women to serve our country openly in the military...if given the option to vast a ballot in secret, would become bigots in the ballot box.

    I have more faith in the integrity of the men and women of our military than that.


    I have never seen anyone lie like you DD.......The military and the Navy in particular are dead set against lifting the ban on gays serving openly in the military which you will see in the coming months.......According to Sec Gates seaking this morning thr majority of the Senate iks against it too.......You are not in a court room now DD...You can't get away with your lies about me..


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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What do you base this on?

    You have the top military officers in the Country calling for the end to this stupid and outdated law....calling for gay men and women to be able to serve their country.

    Why do you think that Congress would vote against the military rather than support the opinions of the vast majority of the ranking military in the country?
    Do you know anything? Did you see the Joint Chiefs sitting on their hands when Obama announced it in the state o the union address or did you even watch it..............Earlier in this thread someone posted a list of senion officers against changing the policy and there was hundreds......

    This is not a court room......You can lie and get away with it there but I won't let you do it here.....I will call you on it every time......

    when you lie DD what creditability you have you lose and you have not had much to start with.......
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have never seen anyone lie like you DD.......The military and the Navy in particular are dead set against lifting the ban on gays serving openly in the military which you will see in the coming months.......According to Sec Gates seaking this morning thr majority of the Senate iks against it too.......You are not in a court room now DD...You can't get away with your lies about me..


    One more thing you know nothing about how people feel in the Navy or what its like.......
    Navy...you are lying through your teeth yet again.

    Do you not read?

    The vast majority of high ranking military officers in this country support ending the ban on gays in the military.

    The overwhelming majority of men/women serving in the military today support ending the ban on gays in the military.

    Where are you getting your information that the majority are against it? It doesn't seem to be supported by the information that is out there.

    Let me give you another clue Navy. You may think that you know what people in the Navy today think based on your you and your cronies attitudes were 40-50 years ago. That isn't true today. The military is much more diverse today and people do not have the same prejudices and beliefs that you and your buddies had. This is supported by the overwhelming majority of military service men and women who say they support ending the ban.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do you know anything? Did you see the Joint Chiefs sitting on their hands when Obama announced it in the state o the union address or did you even watch it..............Earlier in this thread someone posted a list of senion officers against changing the policy and there was hundreds......

    This is not a court room......You can lie and get away with it there but I won't let you do it here.....I will call you on it every time......

    when you lie DD what creditability you have you lose and you have not had much to start with.......
    I've already addressed this issue. First of all, have you ever watched a State of the Union address in previous years? The joint chiefs ALWAYS sit stoically silent. It is the decorum that is expected of them in the address.

    Second, you are aware the the vast majority of the joint chiefs have come out in favor of ending the ban aren't you? Or are you trying to perpetuate lies based on your myths that the military shares your prejudicial views towards gay men and women?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Navy...you are lying through your teeth yet again.

    Do you not read?

    The vast majority of high ranking military officers in this country support ending the ban on gays in the military.

    The overwhelming majority of men/women serving in the military today support ending the ban on gays in the military.

    Where are you getting your information that the majority are against it? It doesn't seem to be supported by the information that is out there.

    Let me give you another clue Navy. You may think that you know what people in the Navy today think based on your you and your cronies attitudes were 40-50 years ago. That isn't true today. The military is much more diverse today and people do not have the same prejudices and beliefs that you and your buddies had. This is supported by the overwhelming majority of military service men and women who say they support ending the ban.
    If you want to debate this issue honestly OK but if you keep lying then I have no other choice but to cease debating with you..........You keep lying....You think if you say it enough people will believe you.........It ain't going to happen......In the future I will only respond to posts from you that do not contain lies........

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you want to debate this issue honestly OK but if you keep lying then I have no other choice but to cease debating with you..........You keep lying....You think if you say it enough people will believe you.........It ain't going to happen......In the future I will only respond to posts from you that do not contain lies........

    After debating with you I now know why most people think lawyers are scumbags...
    That is pretty telling about your inability to have an honest discussion. You have provided nothing to support the basis of your arguments.
    You are aware are you not Navy, that the highest ranking military officers are currently supporting ending the ban aren't you?

    FYI....you can google or yahoo and see for yourself. Do you know how to use a search engine?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyPride

    Here is your own link Navy....did you even bother to read the information contained in it. It defeats every argument you are attempting to make.
    Perhaps you've learned a lesson to read a link before you post it.

    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    At the small unit level in the Army, we are anticipating the change in policy. I doubt that it effects us very seriously in our day-to-day operations in CONUS or deployed.

    I personally have never known any Soldier to be discharged under DADT. I do think there are gay servicemembers serving now and they know to keep it quiet. Will they "come out" if the policy is overturned? I doubt it, but I could be wrong. I currently command a 110 man unit (all males); if DADT is done away with, I'll simply inform my troops that the same EO policies that exist now prohibiting racist and sexist remarks also apply to gays. No big deal.

    I really don't care either way, but if the Brits and IDF can pull it off, then I doubt it will be that earth-shattering for us. I guess I'll find out soon enough.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...if you had been following along you would know that.
    Follow quite closely and it's all you have. Any discussion will degrade into name calling, homophobic this, don't want gays to have any rights that, bigot, narrow minded, naive, ignorant, it's a consistent barrage and it's normally all the Left has when dicussing these issues.

    Navy, himself posted an article which cited that the vast majority of the military have stated that they have no problem with allowing gay men and women to serve in the military....
    Military men.....do mind.

    And yet...he still trys to argue that the military rejects it.
    The military does reject it, especially men.

    I have more faith in the integrity of the men and women of our military than that.
    Again, the women I have no clue. The men do not approve of open serving gay members, sorry.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Awesome! Slowly but surely America is joining the rest of us in the 21st century!
    This is the evolution of our society. I'm fine with gays in my local community, work, etc, so I'd be fine with gays in my platoon. But were I in the military today, I just want to know...am I allowed to file a sexual harassment suit (or charge) if a gay soldier keeps coming on to me?

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