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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    My concern is one of practicality. Fairness doesn't apply in the military. You just do as your told, Sailor.
    Fairness applied in thr Navy I was in for 21 years and you don't make a law for one man and not the other.........DADT is a federal law like any other law..Iff you don't like it you try and change it........you don't break it........If you were actually in the military you would know that..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Fairness applied in thr Navy I was in for 21 years and you don't make a law for one man and not the other.........DADT is a federal law like any other law..Iff you don't like it you try and change it........you don't break it........If you were actually in the military you would know that..........
    No such thing as fair in the military, sailor. You just shut up and follow orders. Doesn't matter if you think it's fair.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I just want to keep things running smoothly is all. I think it's a damn shame that proud men and women must hide their sexuality in order to serve, but they should do so with the knowledge that their sacrifice IS appreciated by people of good will.



    That would certainly be an option. Like I said, whatever keeps things running smoothly.
    Well whatever options they pick in repealing DADT, it will probably take at least a good 5 years to enact it. Even if they choose to segregate gays from certain combat units, it will come down to what works. Obama is wise enough to wait until Congress and the top military leaders are behind the change.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    May I ask...since you too know of process....does the Legislature ever get up behind the always stoic Supreme Court and applaud after the President chastises their decisions?

    Don't want to interrupt, just wonderin.
    No. Although I think Obama was right for calling them out. I thought the Democratic cheerleading squad went overboard (as usual at the SOTU address).


    Now back to the issue.......
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No such thing as fair in the military, sailor. You just shut up and follow orders. Doesn't matter if you think it's fair.
    That is where you and I are different....I gave the orders, you took them..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is where you and I are different....I gave the orders, you took them..........
    Unless you were the President of the United States, you were taking orders from someone.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Well whatever options they pick in repealing DADT, it will probably take at least a good 5 years to enact it. Even if they choose to segregate gays from certain combat units, it will come down to what works. Obama is wise enough to wait until Congress and the top military leaders are behind the change.
    Are you agreeing with me right now? What happened to me not having a valid argument?


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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    I suppose I am in favor of removing it, but I still hold to the opinion that it might be too politically dangerous if the Democrats (or rather, even just the Obama administration) are trying to court the opinion of the Republicans or the conservatively-minded people (moderates or no) in the country.

    Could this cost them in other areas? It just might if it becomes a magnet for tension. Democrats and Republicans have a lot to figure out soon.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Unless you were the President of the United States, you were taking orders from someone.
    I didn't know a Marine would take orders from a sailor anyway.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Are you agreeing with me right now? What happened to me not having a valid argument?

    To be honest, in my mind even if they didn't repeal DADT on some combat units in the near future, they would eventually do so once the rest of the military had DADT repealed and they found no significant problems. It's the same thought I have with same sex marriage. Every year that same sex marriage exists in states like Massachusetts and in other countries like Canada, the more normal it seems, and the less credibility there is in the arguments of the anti same sex marriage people. The problems with the military or marriage will disappear in time as attitudes and perceptions change, so I see your compromise as simply a small step in the right direction.

    I often wish that it were libertarians who were running the government. Things would go much slower than I would like them to go, but I believe that they would at least choose policies that would be better for the country than for partisan interests.
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