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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    Most of them got kicked out because they made it known that they were gay. That in itself is considered a violation of the NADT.

    YouTube- Arabic translator fired from the Navy for being gay
    Yes it is......they broke the law.............
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    Yes it is......they broke the law.............
    Yes, they broke the law by being gay and choosing to serve openly in the armed forces. That is why we are changing the law. It is a bad law. Nothing you have said has disproved that it is a bad law and needs to be changed.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yes, they broke the law by being gay and choosing to serve openly in the armed forces. That is why we are changing the law. It is a bad law. Nothing you have said has disproved that it is a bad law and needs to be changed.
    Nope not being gay, there are other gay guys in the military serving honorably...they broke the law by telling they were gay.......
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    What is objective about a ban which has no logical merits whatsoever? You won't discuss it with me because I can easily trounce whatever argument you could make, and you are afraid of being proven wrong.

    Congrats, you came to a debate forum to run away from a debate.
    I'll happily debate you. What I won't do is bicker with someone who has already made up their mind that I'm wrong and they're right.

    Critical Thought, indeed...
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yes, they broke the law by being gay and choosing to serve openly in the armed forces. That is why we are changing the law. It is a bad law. Nothing you have said has disproved that it is a bad law and needs to be changed.
    The fact that being around gays makes most men's skin crawl has no bearing on the law?.....
    I for one would find solace in not knowing that my 'buddy' wanted to.....Ugh...
    It gives a whole new meaning to "I got your back".........

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    The fact that being around gays makes most men's skin crawl has no bearing on the law?.....
    I for one would find solace in not knowing that my 'buddy' wanted to.....Ugh...
    It gives a whole new meaning to "I got your back".........
    This isn't helping. Nobody should be worried about gays trying to hit on them during training or combat. This is just a silly homophobic thing to say and undermines the credibility of valid objections to the repeal of DADT. If you're that worried about gay guys, then maybe you should get some help....

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Nope not being gay, there are other gay guys in the military serving honorably...they broke the law by telling they were gay.......
    Yes, because men like this who give up a leg for their country should not be allowed to serve openly.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQFvcEU7rvA"]YouTube- Hearing on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" - Staff Sergeant Alva[/ame]

    Because all the men he served alongside who made him the Godfather of their children would not have done so had they known he was gay. Oh wait! They did know!

    Yes, what dishonorable man this guy is. He is a law breaking disgrace to this country.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    I'll happily debate you. What I won't do is bicker with someone who has already made up their mind that I'm wrong and they're right.

    Critical Thought, indeed...
    Prove me wrong. If you look at my threads, you will see that I argue both sides of an issue vehemently until I come to a conclusion that the evidence and reason stands firmly on one side. You simply can't present a valid argument, so you are running. Get on with it and scram.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    The most recent Military Times survey reported 58% of military respondents oppose a DADT policy change, and that was strong enough an issue that 10 percent said they would leave the military while 14% would consider terminating their careers after serving. Although it is true that a modest percentage of mainly younger generation soldiers might be able to serve without issue beside gays, it is also obvious that it would cause frictions with those significant numbers of others that would predictably cause distractions and lack of cohesion. Especially during this war time.

    As long as homosexuals keep their sexual preferences secret, there are cannot be problems else it would not be secret. If homosexuals are allowed to be open without restrictions, morale problems will be certain to arise with a significant number of other soldiers. Soldiers often share very close quarters that are certain to make some other soldiers uncomfortable by invading their sexual privacy. If females and males dressed, showered, berthed, roomed together one could predict similar problems would be certain to occur. The solution may be to allow homosexuals in the military but never in situations where they cannot be isolated in the same way heterosexual females and males are currently isolated. Thus dressing/showering/berthing/room sharing etc would need to be separated into four areas.

    Additionally Don't Ask Don't Tell protects gays by keeping their sexual orientation secret from other servicemen, some of which otherwise predictably would act negatively against them. Further if gays are allowed to act naturally gay-like, that is certain to provoke some into violence. As I have related earlier, it is not merely a matter of re-educating such tendencies via gay sensitivity training because for many in heterosexual dominant American culture, homosexuality is considered a serious taboo and unacceptable behavior. Something mere political legislation or court directives cannot and will not change. Simply a fact. Christian religions will always be allowed those historic moral opinions that cannot be legislated or court ordered otherwise nor can any argumentation effect change within those groups.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The fact that being around gays makes most men's skin crawl has no bearing on the law?.....
    Most men could care less one way or the other. Nice projecting your own homophobia though. Or do you actually have any statistics to back up that assertion?

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