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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    I wasn't suggesting we do anything. I was asking you to complete your train of thought.
    Bull. I said what I had to say. You added your own crap and called it mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You said they should be willing to serve with a gay person, but a lot of them (grunts) might not be. In light of this fact, what do you propose we do? Just kick out the ones who aren't okay with gays? I mean, what else could you do?
    You educate them and expect them to act like the ****ing adults they're supposed to be, to follow their orders and not deviate from them for any pansy "personal reasons." Aren't our military men and women supposed to be the greatest fighting force on the planet? Jesus. I'd be ashamed and afraid to call myself a member if there are so many delicate flowers on the team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I agree that you didn't claim what I said, and that I was lazy in my words, but I think you know what I meant.
    I know what you said, but it had absolutely no connection to me or anything I've said. How about next time you simply ask your questions and let others answer on their own?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    How would you solve this dilemma? Is there another option besides forcing them out of the military? I don't see one.
    There. I knew you could do it. Here's my take on the matter:

    You educate them and expect them to act like the ****ing adults they're supposed to be, to follow their orders and not deviate from them for any pansy "personal reasons." You give them strict instructions and allow for one or two "oopsie" moments, so no one can cry foul about how awful and harsh it is to have to suddenly behave like a grown up. After that, they're out. If it means we ****can a bunch of bad apples, so be it. Do we really want a bunch of whiny and/or violent homophobes on the force anyway?

    Just do your damned job and get over yourself.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? I was witness to one incident, where a young black guy had the absolute temerity to say yes when a white girl asked him to dance. When he returned to where we where sitting, one of the guys(who probably had been hoping to try and put the moves on this girl) said "we don't like niggers dancing with white girls". He not surprisingly went to Captain's mast for it, and did 60/60 with R in R and half months pay X2.

    The funny thing is that the white people, including myself who where there where the most pissed. It was the black guys who kept a couple of the white guys from stomping on the racist bastard. I am pretty sure that a decade or so from now, if you changes this to be about straits and gays, the story would be almost identical. The military always resists change, but the military does change, and change alot.
    I am not saying that incidents don't take place but they are the exception rather then the rule..
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is exactly it. Gays already serve, and have proven that they can fit in and be a part of the team, without disruption or any loss of unit cohesion or morale. Those who have done so are the reason we are at the point we are now, where we can remove DADT without real worry of negative consequences. We owe a debt of gratitude to these men and women, not just for their service to country, but for the fact they did it with an added burden, and did it well enough that they have changed the attitudes of a large portion of their fellow military personnel.
    Everyone knows gays serve now....no revelations there...and a lot of been discharged for violating the UCMJ........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow....you would think that if most men were unable to control themselves like you have said that you wouldn't be able to control yourself that these gay men in the Navy would be all over each other and sexually assaulting straight men at every turn.

    I guess this just proves that most men aren't like you Navy. Most are able to control their sexual urges.
    And you couldn't either under the condittions I mentioned.It is useless to debate this with you because you won't admit when your wrong DD......No man could with stand the example I gave.........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    I thanked his post because I appreciate his honesty.
    Oh I see that now, yes.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The military isn't a social science lab. Leave it be. It was bad enough when they let women serve on ships and fly fighters...

    Hell, I got sent to "sensitivity training" with the ships Chaplin once! Why? I was on the fantail havin' a smoke, and about 4 people asked to bum a light. The fifth kid comes up, young black kid I think he was in Deck Department, and I said "Sure is a dearth of lighters today" as I held out my lighter.

    What did the kid do, he kind of looked at me odd, walked away and the next day I got counceled for being insensitive and sent to the Chaplin for "Racial Sensitivity Training" because the kid thought I used a big word to insult him. No ****, true story.

    The military doesn't need more social engineering crap.
    Exactly, the military is there to fight our wars and protect the population, not
    for social experimentation led by a bunch of "feel good" liberals who are not in the military and have never served........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    WTF? You where allowed to smoke on the fantail? When was this? The last workup I went on, there where a total of 10 designated smoking areas on the ship and just walking into any of them and taking one breath got you all the nicotine you needed for days.

    Women on ships worked MrV, as did blacks in the same berthings(which by the way is not spelled "birthings" like I originally typed), as did all these "social experiments".

    As far as your story, the military tends to overreact to some things. Where you in during the Tailhook scandal? In the course of the year after that, we went through no less than 8 full days of sexual harassment training, including 2 two day events, and we all went to small week long training sessions on the topic.
    The things that happened at the Tailhook convention went on for many years.....It just so happen that the woman that made all the fuss just happened to get off the elevator on the wrong floor that night and went through that line of men...The women that usually went thru the line enjoyed the attention and were usually drunk.......
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Women aboard combat ships truth be told has been a miserable failure.........Off the record senior officers and chiefs will tell you that....If they speak on the record it will be held against come promotion and reenlistment time..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Exactly, the military is there to fight our wars and protect the population, not
    for social experimentation led by a bunch of "feel good" liberals who are not in the military and have never served........
    Let's consider something Navy.

    The US military now fights wars in considerably more coalitions with other nations. That means that our servicemen and women are now conducting more and more missions with the servicemen and women of other nations. Now as has already been stated, unit cohesion goes down in our inferior military when our servicemen and women serve alongside openly gay and lesbian people. But alas, all those countries that we form coalitions with allow openly gay and lesbian people to serve. That means even if we don't allow gays and lesbians to serve in our military, our servicemen and women will be fighting alongside openly gay and lesbian people from other nations. And that of course means, that our inferior military could not possibly successfully conduct missions, because of the presence of those foreign gay and lesbian people.

    Oh woe is us for having such a pathetic military!

    What a wicked liberal social experiment that has been going on since....well....the beginning of the war in Iraq.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Originally Posted by apdst
    Because it's been my experience that females are more homophobic than males
    Ever heard of Yoai? I'd bet not, since it begin in Japan in manga series. Manga are Japanese comic books.


    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi]Yaoi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]



    For me, girls like it when two guys make out just as much as guys like it when they see two girls making out. I am confused, since I am in the anime/ manga crowd, and I see a lot of Yoai/Yuri fans. How are we're more homophobic than males are? You must be living, in your own little world Apsdt.

    I used this as an example of how this is not true!



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    I think the dadt rule is bigoted move by the military, and I do want it repealed.
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