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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I don't know about all of that. I think Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. Obama should just get rid of it. Once it's gone it's unlikely another President would bring it back.
    But that's the whole point. He can do that. Instead he's dumping responsibility on Congress so he can get the praise from sucker liberals (not yourself because you were wary as well) while sharing no responsibility for actually doing something about it.

    True liberals who believe this policy should be removed should be angry that he is trying to shirk responsibility yet again while trying to get points for suggesting the idea in the first place.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I don't know about all of that. I think Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. Obama should just get rid of it. Once it's gone it's unlikely another President would bring it back.
    Obama is overly stuck on this whole "bi-partisanship" nonsense, that may be why he's going to Congress. As if the GOP cares one whit for bi-partisanship.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    But that's the whole point. He can do that. Instead he's dumping responsibility on Congress so he can get the praise from sucker liberals (not yourself because you were wary as well) while sharing no responsibility for actually doing something about it.

    True liberals who believe this policy should be removed should be angry that he is trying to shirk responsibility yet again while trying to get points for suggesting the idea in the first place.
    Yeah I think I agree. If the President REALLY wants to get rid of this policy he should just do it. He has the power and authority. No excuses, no waiting game, no blame game. Just do it.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Obama is overly stuck on this whole "bi-partisanship" nonsense, that may be why he's going to Congress. As if the GOP cares one whit for bi-partisanship.
    Oh yes. When Bush was in office you liberals were so accommodating

    How is fantasy land doing?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Yeah I think I agree. If the President REALLY wants to get rid of this policy he should just do it. He has the power and authority. No excuses, no waiting game, no blame game. Just do it.
    I may not agree with you on some issues but I applaud your thinking. You want action from the politicians you voted for, not empty promises.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Obama is overly stuck on this whole "bi-partisanship" nonsense, that may be why he's going to Congress. As if the GOP cares one whit for bi-partisanship.
    See I can see going to Congress if he had too, but he's the CIC. He can just do it. Even if all of Congress was 100% Republican he could still do it.

    I think? I'm still not 100% on that because I can't remember exactly how Clinton instituted the policy. But I don't think Congress was involved. Except of course to bitch about it.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    See I can see going to Congress if he had too, but he's the CIC. He can just do it. Even if all of Congress was 100% Republican he could still do it.

    I think? I'm still not 100% on that because I can't remember exactly how Clinton instituted the policy. But I don't think Congress was involved. Except of course to bitch about it.
    Yeah, well it's not what I would have done. I would have done the Executive Order myself. Particularly after the health care fiasco.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    the impromptu president supplants policy with improvisation

    this proviso is the product of 5:00 ponderance

    such a paltry perspective

    pathetic

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    the impromptu president supplants policy with improvisation

    this proviso is the product of 5:00 ponderance

    such a paltry perspective

    pathetic
    Bush had better policy? "9/11, ****. Wait, now we can go into Iraq, we've got a totally awesome plan for how to deal with it! It's going to be great!"
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Yeah I think I agree. If the President REALLY wants to get rid of this policy he should just do it. He has the power and authority. No excuses, no waiting game, no blame game. Just do it.
    Yes, why doesn't he just do it? Executive Order, just like Clinton did in 1993. He shouldn't have to worry too much about another President overturning it, since Bush didn't overturn Clinton's.

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