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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You said they should be willing to serve with a gay person, but a lot of them (grunts) might not be. In light of this fact, what do you propose we do? Just kick out the ones who aren't okay with gays? I mean, what else could you do?
    What happens when a white soldier doesn't want to serve with black soldiers? Well there is your answer.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    What an idiotic move, does he want to lose in 2012?


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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What happens when a white soldier doesn't want to serve with black soldiers? Well there is your answer.
    Its not the same thing...I served with many black sailors aboard ship and had no problem with it.........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its not the same thing...I served with many black sailors aboard ship and had no problem with it.........
    I bet some of those soldiers were gay too.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I bet some of those soldiers were gay too.
    They were sailors and they could have been...I don't know.....Your point is?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They were sailors and they could have been...I don't know.....Your point is?
    Uh some of them were gay is the point.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its not the same thing...I served with many black sailors aboard ship and had no problem with it.........
    There are no racists in the navy I take it? Seriously stop bringing up your service as a reference. Nobody gives a **** what a single person thinks. This is about policy and how the military as a whole will react.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What happens when a white soldier doesn't want to serve with black soldiers? Well there is your answer.
    I have never heard of that happening in the Navy.........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There are no racists in the navy I take it? Seriously stop bringing up your service as a reference. Nobody gives a **** what a single person thinks. This is about policy and how the military as a whole will react.
    There are racists through our society so of course there are racists in the military......Every one that enlists in the military knows there will be people from other races there...

    It is obvious you have never enlisted...........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have never heard of that happening in the Navy.........
    You've never heard of racism in the Navy?

    Sailors Fight Navy Racism

    On October 12, as the Kitty Hawk sailed toward North Vietnam, a Naval investigating officer was questioning crew members about a heated fight that had taken place the night before in Subic Bay in the Phillipines. The fight had resulted in the arrest of live blacks and lout whiles; the only sailors called in for questioning were black. Angry with this kind of discrimination, the blacks who had been questioned later gathered on the deck with other black crewmembers to rap about it, and, nervously overreacting, the brass called in a marine riot squad to break it up. Fights then broke out all over the ship involving over 100 white and black sailors. Twentyfive blacks- and no whites-were charged with "assault and rioting.''

    Navy racism was highlighted by the mass resistance of sailors of the USS Constellation. The brass, under pressure to get rid of a number of the crew because of the overcrowded condition of the ship, was attempting nearly exclusively to discharge blacks. Challenging this, on November 3, 80 blacks gathered on deck demanding an audience with the Captain. When he refused to meet with them, other crewmembers joined them and they all staged a sit-down demonstration that lasted through the night and into the next day.
    At one point, there were over 300 sailors, including whites, sitting in protest.
    :Vocalo.org

    These are some snippets from The Carrier - a PBS documentary that just came about about the lives of folks living on the USS Nimitz an aircraft carrier that went into the Gulf in 2004. This set is about a particular guys who is kicked out of the Navy for racism.
    Now you have.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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