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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Yeah, it's good news and yada yada. But this better not be a stupid gimmick to throw progressives a bone, right after Obama sticks it to them on health care. (I'm quite cynical about this SOTU. I'm expecting a craven, pathetic address.)
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yeah, it's good news and yada yada. But this better not be a stupid gimmick to throw progressives a bone, right after he sticks it to them on health care. (I'm quite cynical about this SOTU. I'm expecting a craven, pathetic address.)
    You are absolutely correct. This is a gimmick to throw liberals a bone.

    He puts the burden on an already timid Congress looking at everything Obama has been touching turning radioactive and gives them yet another non popular social change which they will never pass.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says - CNN.com


    President Obama will ask Congress Wednesday night to repeal the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that bars gays and lesbians from openly serving in, White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod told CNN.

    The request will be included in the president's State of the Union address, Axelrod said.

    The issue has been a source of contention for heavy hitters on both sides of the issue, who are lining up for a fight.

    In a message to Pentagon leadership, Gen. John Shalikashvili, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it's time to repeal the law.

    "As a nation built on the principal of equality, we should recognize and welcome change that will build a stronger more cohesive military," said Shalikashvili. His letter was sent out Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-New York, who supports repealing the policy
    Why is Obama asking Congress, wasn't this started by a Clinton Executive Order? Why not get rid of that Exective Order and put out a new one?

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Why is Obama asking Congress, wasn't this started by a Clinton Executive Order? Why not get rid of that Exective Order and put out a new one?
    Obama's argument on this has been, and I would assume still is, that if congress does it, it would take congress to undo it, if he does it with an executive order, the next president can undo it just as easily.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Why is Obama asking Congress, wasn't this started by a Clinton Executive Order? Why not get rid of that Exective Order and put out a new one?
    That's what I thought too, but now I'm questioning my memory on it.

    On the surface it would seem that the President (as CIC) should simply be able to change it.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Obama's argument on this has been, and I would assume still is, that if congress does it, it would take congress to undo it, if he does it with an executive order, the next president can undo it just as easily.
    Ah. Okay well that makes sense. Well not really, but it makes as much sense as anything in DC.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Ah. Okay well that makes sense. Well not really, but it makes as much sense as anything in DC.
    It's not a great argument, though I do understand it. He could have, and should have removed it with an executive order, and asked congress to remove it more permanently.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    Why is Obama asking Congress, wasn't this started by a Clinton Executive Order? Why not get rid of that Exective Order and put out a new one?
    Thats exactly right. Obama is a coward trying to throw it back on Congress when he could do it himself. He's trying to get red meat for liberals but throw the responsibility of actually doing something on someone else.

    So typical of Obama.

    And only megaprogman and Kandahar sniffed it out for what it is. The rest of the liberals on page 1 were too busy praising it without actually thinking about it.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Thats exactly right. Obama is a coward trying to throw it back on Congress when he could do it himself. He's trying to get red meat for liberals but throw the responsibility of actually doing something on someone else.

    So typical of Obama.

    And only megaprogman and Kandahar sniffed it out for what it is. The rest of the liberals on page 1 were too busy praising it without actually thinking about it.
    I don't know about all of that. I think Don't ask don't tell is a stupid policy. Obama should just get rid of it. Once it's gone it's unlikely another President would bring it back.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    The biggest problem I have with this is that it will add up to a bunch more equal oppertunity and anti harrassment briefs that I have to go to instead of being out training. Anyone who has been in the Army in the last 15 years knows exactly what I am talking about. Civilians would never belive how much time is wasted in the Army doing this crap.
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