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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    No, that's not saying much for some individuals. And like it or not, there is a resentment against the repealing of DADT in our military and that resentment is prone to amplifying the false justifications that irrational individuals use to talk themselves into acting.



    That doesn't negate safety issues from within. Just because it's not a stray bullet doesn't mean it may not be a stray beating or stray blunt object or any number of things. Don't be daft in focusing on a single hypothetical minutiae in an effort to deflect from the broader point.

    If this were being changed during peace time, I would be 100% behind it because focus could be made on a transition process. However, I dont see that happening in a war zone.
    Yeah. True. I can see those points, especially during war time. Still it's sad that anyone (in the military or not) would be capable of that type of attack against someone serving beside them. But I'm not going to argue against it and say it couldn't happen.

    But still... is THAT the reason not to end DADT? I don't know. Maybe it would be best to wait until peace time to end it. But with the "war on Terror" being open ended peace time may never come.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    That's not saying much for our soldiers and marines.

    What about the Navy or Air Force? They rarely have stray bullets since they rarely engage in the close combat and small arms fire that soldiers and marines do.
    Tell that to the all the Navy guys whose names are on that wall in DC........In adition to Navy Corpsman there were Navy fast boats up and down the rivers and in the Me Kong Delta manned strictly by Navy personnel that suffered many casualties..............



    Probably way before your time.........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    Tell that to the all the Navy guys whose names are on that wall in DC........In adition to Navy Corpsman there were Navy fast boats up and down the rivers and in the Me Kong Delta manned strictly by Navy personnel that suffered many casualties..............



    Probably way before your time.........
    I wasn't talking about the past. I'm talking about the present and the future.

    We're discussing the potential of someone acting out violently against a fellow service member because that other member is gay.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Yeah. True. I can see those points, especially during war time. Still it's sad that anyone (in the military or not) would be capable of that type of attack against someone serving beside them. But I'm not going to argue against it and say it couldn't happen.

    But still... is THAT the reason not to end DADT? I don't know. Maybe it would be best to wait until peace time to end it. But with the "war on Terror" being open ended peace time may never come.
    Don't get me wrong...I think it should be ended at the first safe opportunity. Hell, I am gay man, myself and I find it infuriating that our service is diminished by DADT. I just worry about doing it in the middle of an ongoing conflict.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I wasn't talking about the past. I'm talking about the present and the future.

    We're discussing the potential of someone acting out violently against a fellow service member because that other member is gay.
    Well since there are nor rivers that is out but there are still many navy corpsmans there without weapons add that to the many Navy Seals there you still have plenty of Navy Casualties in fact recently a Navy Seal got the Medal of Honor when he fell on a gernade smothering it, dying himself and saving the lives of all around him.............

    Guess you did not hear of that either..........
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Don't get me wrong...I think it should be ended at the first safe opportunity. Hell, I am gay man, myself and I find it infuriating that our service is diminished by DADT. I just worry about doing it in the middle of an ongoing conflict.
    Well I'll say this, so far you're the only person who has a real reason for keeping DADT, even if it's only temporary.

    Thank you.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    I wonder how ya'll would feel when gay soldiers discriminate against straight soldiers. Just curious.

    I'm sure some would believe the straight soldiers had it coming.
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    I wonder how ya'll would feel when gay soldiers discriminate against straight soldiers. Just curious.

    I'm sure some would believe the straight soldiers had it coming.
    How would you feel about this?
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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

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    How would you feel about this?
    It's wrong. How do you feel about it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's wrong. How do you feel about it?
    I agree. Tit for tat never helps any one. It's good to see that you agree with this. I suppose that means that you are someone who would NEVER go after liberals simply because they went after conservatives during the Bush years and "had it coming", right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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