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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You shoulda look at the dates of the articles before you go off half cocked like that.



    So, if the IDF had a DADT'esq policy, the sexual harassment rate would be cut in half. Thank you for finally admitting that the abolition of DADT will result in an increased number of sexual harassment cases.

    It's like pulling ****ing hen's teeth, I swear!
    No, it would not, because there would be fewer serving.
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    Post Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    I don't think ... whenever Obama give an order or judge, anything he said I always found logical and right.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Good article about how many more soldiers/sailors and officers are fine with gays serving these days.

    (My favorite part is when it calls them "liberal"! )

    More tolerance for gay troops as end of 'don't ask, don't tell' is debated - washingtonpost.com

    More tolerance for gay troops as end of 'don't ask, don't tell' is debated

    By Ernesto Londoņo
    Wednesday, February 10, 2010

    BAGHDAD -- Days before a deployment to Iraq last year, the 26-year-old soldier's sergeant told his troops that they would get to know one another pretty well over the next few months.

    "I'm in trouble," the specialist remembered thinking. He feared comrades would find out he is gay. Worse, he said, they could figure out that he has been dating another soldier in the combat arms battalion for more than five years. Their careers were on the line.

    The reaction during the soldier's year-long deployment -- nobody asked about it -- offers new insight into how today's military might adapt to a repeal of the ban on openly gay service members sought by President Obama and top Pentagon officials. The specialist didn't exactly tell, but at the end of the tour, his sexual orientation had become a poorly kept secret -- and his career was undamaged.

    "I don't know if I won any hearts and minds among the Iraqis," said the specialist, who returned home from Iraq recently. "But I did among my brothers in arms because I did my job well and went above and beyond. I was respected."

    A younger and more liberal corps of commanders and soldiers has given rise to bubbles of tolerance in today's military, an institution that soldiers describe as still largely unwelcoming and wary of gays, according to interviews with more than a dozen enlisted troops and officers, both gay and straight.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When did this happen?



    And, do you think that those translators are the only Arabic speaking people in the country?
    No, but we need them. First, they have a clearance, which your average Iraqi off the street does not. CAT 1 (Local National) interpreters aren't good for use because you can't say anything secret or classified to them, like you can with U.S. Military translators. I wish they wouldn't have gotten booted under DADT, we do need them very, very badly.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So what would that evidence be? Walking down the street while holding hands and kissing your partner?
    I know of a Sergeant that caught two of his Soldiers having gay sex in the back of a humvee. Both were discharged under DADT.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I know of a Sergeant that caught two of his Soldiers having gay sex in the back of a humvee. Both were discharged under DADT.
    As would a male and female soldier doing the same thing, I presume.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    As would a male and female soldier doing the same thing, I presume.
    Nope. They might get in trouble, but won't be discharged.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    As would a male and female soldier doing the same thing, I presume.
    Only if they were punishable under Article 125.

    I knew of a battalion commander once that was cashiered under Article 125 after he was caught getting head from one of his female NCO's in the parking lot of battalion headquarters. The female received a field grade Article 15, which cost her two pay grades, 30 days confinement and forfiture of 60 days pay.

    Personally, I think they should have also been subject to Article 999, Stupidity.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You do understand that basic training is only two months long and that training doesn't end with graduation? You really don't have a clue how the military works, do you?
    I did basic, then AIT (a total of 6 or 7 months). After that, my training days were over. From then on, it was just a job until I got out.

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    Re: Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    I did basic, then AIT (a total of 6 or 7 months). After that, my training days were over. From then on, it was just a job until I got out.
    You were obviously a serious POG, then, if you didn't do any kind of training after you left BCT and AIT. In a combat arms unit, training never ends; not even in a combat zone.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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