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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I take this with a grain of salt. When politicians say that they are going to reduce spending, or freeze spending, what they really mean is that they are going to reduce the rate of growth.

    Isn't that what it has always been about with these progressives? I mean just take a look at what he proposes doing to the banks right now? popular? yes. Pragmatic over populist? Hell no. And all the liberal anti capitalist rhetoric going on now, think that is a mistake, or a byproduct of the agenda? I say agenda.


    But what about the ruinous spending that is already in place? I didn't hear him say that he was going to reduce that. And, since this does not apply to certain programs, such as Homeland Security, it appears to me that overall spending will still actually increase.

    Homeland Security is "ruinous spending"? Please explain further. And ofcourse the current track is going to push forward, and push us deeper in debt, that is the plan. Plouff isn't returning for a reunion. One of his first statements was that Obama needs to press full speed ahead. Reminds one of the Titanic.



    Way to talk around the Q, and your use of smoke and mirrors, Mr. President.

    Why still listen to a liar.


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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Perhaps, but he made deficit spending A-OK by precedent with his needless, wasteful Iraq War.
    The war in Iraq ciost less per year than the -growth- of entitlement spending.

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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Well this could be a good start. However, America isn't going to be able to get rid of it's horrendous debt levels unless it makes significant cuts to it's ridiculously large military. Just ain't gonna happen.
    Always the left picking on the military.

    The biggest single item on the US budget is Socialist Security, followed by several other completely unconstitutional programs.

    Sure the military budget should be assessed, but the other programs should be eliminated.

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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't that what it has always been about with these progressives? I mean just take a look at what he proposes doing to the banks right now? popular? yes. Pragmatic over populist? Hell no. And all the liberal anti capitalist rhetoric going on now, think that is a mistake, or a byproduct of the agenda? I say agenda.





    Homeland Security is "ruinous spending"? Please explain further. And ofcourse the current track is going to push forward, and push us deeper in debt, that is the plan. Plouff isn't returning for a reunion. One of his first statements was that Obama needs to press full speed ahead. Reminds one of the Titanic.






    Why still listen to a liar.


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    I'm not going to be a political hack about it. It isn't just the Liberals who pull this crap. While in office, Bush claimed to be reducing the deficit, while in practice, he actually tripled it. Both parties are guilty as hell, so finger pointing, just because the only thing you are looking at is not the practice itself, but the letter next to the name (D or R), is not helping here.

    If Obama wants to be honest, he should just man up and tell the truth. By the same token, there are plenty here who were dishonest enough to refuse to criticize Bush when he was doing exactly the same thing. Where were they when Bush was in office?
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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I'm not going to be a political hack about it. It isn't just the Liberals who pull this crap. While in office, Bush claimed to be reducing the deficit, while in practice, he actually tripled it. Both parties are guilty as hell, so finger pointing, just because the only thing you are looking at is not the practice itself, but the letter next to the name (D or R), is not helping here.

    If Obama wants to be honest, he should just man up and tell the truth. By the same token, there are plenty here who were dishonest enough to refuse to criticize Bush when he was doing exactly the same thing. Where were they when Bush was in office?

    Ofcourse Bush was doing the same thing, and I'll go one step further and agree with you that BOTH parties are infiltrated with a sickness. It's called Progressivism! I may argue more on the republican side of things, and even will wear the moniker of partisan, but if you think for one moment that I thought that the spending undertaken by congressional repubs that tore the party apart and force a monumental loss of government then you are sadily mistaken friend.


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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Where were they when Bush was in office?

    Bitching about the unconstitutional deficit spending.

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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Bitching about the unconstitutional deficit spending.
    Well they must have been whispering their complaints.
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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Actually he's not lying. It's a spending freeze. Small yes. Temporary yes. But still it's a freeze.

    Would you prefer Obama continue to increasing spending?
    I think it's good that he is wanting to freeze some things, but I think it would be better if he stopped pushing debt growing policies and repealed stimulus spending that hasn't been spent yet. I think this is a good small step, but I think Obama is mainly doing it for political purposes and in response to MA electing Senator Brown.He knows America is fed up with the budget, so he is trying to manipulate the masses into believing he is trying to fix the deficit and debt when he really isn't. It's all about his popularity, not about doing what is good for the country.

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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    If President Obama is indeed making the same mistake Bush has during his two terms, it better not be biased.
    Last edited by ZGM; 01-26-10 at 02:16 PM.

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    Re: Obama to propose spending freeze

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    ... but I think Obama is mainly doing it for political purposes and in response to MA electing Senator Brown.He knows America is fed up with the budget, so he is trying to manipulate the masses into believing he is trying to fix the deficit and debt when he really isn't.
    Do you think that anyone (anyone that is not already inebriated on The Omaba's kool-aid, anyway) will see this $25B/yr spending 'cut' as meaningful, and not the political ploy that you describe?

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