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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    the populist---LOL!

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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Unfortunately I thinks that's a perfect example. Just shows that both parties only want the keys to the candy store.
    They're not really analogous, as many of the no-bid contracts that people objected to under Bush were no-bid because they were contracts for things that no other organization could have undertaken successfully. "Legal education" organizations are not particularly scarce, so that rationale is inapplicable here.

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    I'll just bet you don't have a clue about those no-bid contracts. They probably weren't as crooked as you think.
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    They're not really analogous, as many of the no-bid contracts that people objected to under Bush were no-bid because they were contracts for things that no other organization could have undertaken successfully. "Legal education" organizations are not particularly scarce, so that rationale is inapplicable here.
    Fair enough. If specialized skill sets were called for then obviously people fitting the bill would be scarce.

    Either way, the rampant spending continues...
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    I know that I am often subjected to contractors working for me on a "T&M" basis (time and material.) This is because, going in, they are not sure as to what will be waiting for them making it impossible to determine a reasoned price (thus possibly result in gamblling their company away.)

    The concept of no-bid is not only understandable but necessary. The problem is the appearance of impropriorty (sp) as the company's who get this work are all to often tied to the hip (or not far-removed) to the politician's commissioning the jobs. Campaign donations, past-ties, cronyism, all boils down to political kick-backs, in one form or another, and THAT'S the nature of American politics.

    And MOST people are sick of that kinda ****. Rush can salt and pepper that all he wants and his people can eat until they're full. But MOST American's are sick and tired of Washington, nay, even on the state and local levels, of professional politicians running our lives. I say we just contract those political jobs out. Put them out of business the same way they are putting us out of business.
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC
    They're not really analogous, as many of the no-bid contracts that people objected to under Bush were no-bid because they were contracts for things that no other organization could have undertaken successfully. "Legal education" organizations are not particularly scarce, so that rationale is inapplicable here.
    And you bought and advance that garbage "that no other organization could have undertaken successfully".

    Tell me you're not serious that no other organization in the United States could have supplied services in Iraq such as engineering, construction, transport, food, postal services, laundry, warehousing, etc., etc.

    Do you know how they got those engineers, cooks, dishwashers and truck drivers? They put out ads in newspapers and on the net. Not really too difficult.
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    I don't question the, "no-bid", aspect of this thing and in the case of Halliburton, there isn't another oilfield service company in the world with the assets to handle the Iraq job.

    What I have issue with is actually paying a private company 25 million bucks to,

    provide "rule of law stabilization services" in war-torn Afghanistan
    Surely we have people who are already in the employ of our government that can perform that mission.
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'll just bet you don't have a clue about those no-bid contracts. They probably weren't as crooked as you think.
    True.

    The Left never did name another firm with the assets able to commence work on the jobs immediately.

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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    And you bought and advance that garbage "that no other organization could have undertaken successfully".

    Tell me you're not serious that no other organization in the United States could have supplied services in Iraq such as engineering, construction, transport, food, postal services, laundry, warehousing, etc., etc.

    Do you know how they got those engineers, cooks, dishwashers and truck drivers? They put out ads in newspapers and on the net. Not really too difficult.
    FactCheck.org: Anti-Bush Ad Overstates Case Against Halliburton

    The head of the GAO told a House watchdog committee that it had looked into no-bid contracts in Iraq, including Halliburton's, and concluded that the Pentagon and other agencies "generally complied with applicable laws and regulations governing competition" when awarding them. Comptroller General David Walker faulted the Pentagon for some add-ons to those contracts, called "task orders," that he said were not properly justified in writing prior to the award. But he also said the agencies probably would have been able to formally justify the awards given urgent wartime needs (emphasis added):

    Comptroller General David Walker: Importantly, given the war in Iraq, the urgent need for reconstruction efforts, and the latitude allowed by the competition law, these task orders reasonably could have been supported by justifications for other than full and open competition.

    Preceding Walker's testimony was a formal GAO report to Congress stating, among other things, that the Army Corps of Engineers "properly" awarded a sole-source contract for rebuilding Iraq's oilfields (emphasis added):

    GAO Report: For example, the Army Corps of Engineers properly awarded a sole-source contract for rebuilding Iraq's oil infrastructure to the only contractor that was determined to be in a position to provide the services within the required time frame.
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    Re: Obama Administration Steers Lucrative No-Bid Contract for Afghan Work to Dem Dono

    The contract competitive bid process on government awards can take YEARS.

    And then the loser sues, and it takes more years to resolve.

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