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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes and no. Corruption in the Dominican republic is like what you would find in any 3rd world country. Haiti takes it to a whole new level. I am not talking just government, it filters down to the people in a very bad way.

    The Western powers taught the Haitian people how to exploit their fellow man far to well
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    That exploitation goes back well before Columbus sailed, & is alive & well in all of sub Saharan Africa......

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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Please.......
    That exploitation goes back well before Columbus sailed, & is alive & well in all of sub Saharan Africa......
    You honestly think anyone was talking about slavery?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Everyone agrees that a stable government is #1. Then an economic system that allows Haitians to benefit from the resources they have available to exploit. What Royal Caribbean is doing is a prime example. Some in the press started beating up on the cruise line, but the cruise line which likely has the closest link to locals of any non-Haitian business made a great point that tourism was the wrong thing to stop in the middle of this disaster. Leaving Haitians on the island unemployed because of the disaster was a mistake, and thus they continue there stops. Here is a company that thoroughly understands what they need, and ought to be invited to the Canadian summit.
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Please.......
    That exploitation goes back well before Columbus sailed, & is alive & well in all of sub Saharan Africa......
    Yes, and Africa never had to deal with any colonization.
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Delegates arrive for the conference, and the inevitable photo ops.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9692qcr8OM"]YouTube- Haiti emergency aid conference opens in Montreal[/nomedia]
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Hmm....Haiti needs foreign capital.

    So it needs to guarantee that property held in Haiti is safe from government corruption, and that money in Haiti is safe.

    As the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere, it should be willing to sew it's way to prosperity. Yes, that means encouraging textile companies to set up shop in Haiti and pay low wages. No reason Bangladesh should keep that monopoly, is there? If the Haitians don't want to do honest work for their money, let'em starve.

    No reason Haiti can't become a banking haven like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. They're an independent nation. They certainly should not allow "aid givers" an opportunity to take control.

    And they should make the nation safe for tourists, to encourage foreign travellers, and not just the pedophiles. They have a wonderful beautiful island which should be marketed at the gem it is.

    But first they need a government that will protect individual property rights and control gangs and corruption.

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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hmm....Haiti needs foreign capital.

    So it needs to guarantee that property held in Haiti is safe from government corruption, and that money in Haiti is safe.

    As the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere, it should be willing to sew it's way to prosperity. Yes, that means encouraging textile companies to set up shop in Haiti and pay low wages. No reason Bangladesh should keep that monopoly, is there? If the Haitians don't want to do honest work for their money, let'em starve.
    They already have some textile operations there. Companies like Disney contract out to Haiti-based textile sweat shops (that incidentally treat the Haitians pretty poorly).

    No reason Haiti can't become a banking haven like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. They're an independent nation. They certainly should not allow "aid givers" an opportunity to take control.

    And they should make the nation safe for tourists, to encourage foreign travellers, and not just the pedophiles. They have a wonderful beautiful island which should be marketed at the gem it is.

    But first they need a government that will protect individual property rights and control gangs and corruption.
    Free trade zones to encourage investment might be another idea. I wonder how well that has worked in other countries who've tried it?
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You honestly think anyone was talking about slavery?
    No were talking about exploitation, many people think that started with the New World, when black on black exploitation started way earlier........
    You might as well insert WHITEY, when referring to Western civilization, because that's what you mean.....
    Blaming their plight or character on 'western civilzation', is still playing the same old race card.....

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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    I read a title of a source that states it will take about 10 years to rebuild Haiti.

    To be completely honest, I think the Haiti reconstruction project will take at least 20 years, excluding the high plausibility that another natural catastrophe will strike it again.

    I think it is possible to cut the rebuild time down tremendously, but in two months the celebrities, the media, and most people will have forgotten about Haiti.
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    Re: Laying Haiti's new foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    No were talking about exploitation, many people think that started with the New World, when black on black exploitation started way earlier........
    You might as well insert WHITEY, when referring to Western civilization, because that's what you mean.....
    Blaming their plight or character on 'western civilzation', is still playing the same old race card.....
    No it is not. Colonization helped create the problem. You can try and deny it, but fortunately history says no.

    You can try and make this into some kind of race thing, but it is not.

    You can leave the racist undertones someplace else.
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