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    Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) intends to introduce legislation that would take away the minority’s power to filibuster legislation.


    Harkin has wanted to change the filibuster for years, but his move would come in the wake of Republican Scott Brown’s dramatic victory in Massachusetts. Brown’s victory cost Democrats their 60th vote in the Senate, and may have dealt a death blow to their hopes to move a massive healthcare overhaul. It could also limit President Barack Obama’s ability to move other pieces of his agenda forward.
    Looks like Democrats are looking for another way to ram their health care bill through Congress. On the surface, it looks like a long shot, since modern Senate rules maintain that 67 votes are needed to change the rules. But there was a Supreme Court ruling in 1892 (US v. Ballin), that made only a simple majority necessary to accomplish it. Things could get really ugly here in the next few months, and possibly another case could be headed for the Supremes to decide.

    Article is here.

    I believe that, while Republicans are in the right at this time, it wasn't long ago (2005) that roles were reversed, and it was Republicans planning the "nuclear option" and Democrats screaming their heads off. The bad news is that Republicans are going to end up looking like hypocrites here, but the good news is so will the Democrats. LOL.

    I also made a post on my blog about this.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like Democrats are looking for another way to ram their health care bill through Congress. On the surface, it looks like a long shot, since modern Senate rules maintain that 67 votes are needed to change the rules. But there was a Supreme Court ruling in 1892 (US v. Ballin), that made only a simple majority necessary to accomplish it. Things could get really ugly here in the next few months, and possibly another case headed for the Supremes to decide.

    Article is here.

    I believe that, while Republicans are in the right at this time, it wasn't long ago (2005) that roles were reversed, and it was Republicans planning the "nuclear option" and Democrats screaming their heads off. The bad news is that Republicans are going to end up looking like hypocrites here, but the good news is so will the Democrats. LOL.

    I also made a post on my blog about this.


    The Dems are making a mistake by doing this for this sorry a** bill, its not worth the hit they will take.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    I think they should let it die. Healthcare reform, but not this ugly duckling.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like Democrats are looking for another way to ram their health care bill through Congress. On the surface, it looks like a long shot, since modern Senate rules maintain that 67 votes are needed to change the rules. But there was a Supreme Court ruling in 1892 (US v. Ballin), that made only a simple majority necessary to accomplish it. Things could get really ugly here in the next few months, and possibly another case could be headed for the Supremes to decide.

    Article is here.

    I believe that, while Republicans are in the right at this time, it wasn't long ago (2005) that roles were reversed, and it was Republicans planning the "nuclear option" and Democrats screaming their heads off. The bad news is that Republicans are going to end up looking like hypocrites here, but the good news is so will the Democrats. LOL.

    I also made a post on my blog about this.
    I do not see any mention of much democratic support, so I doubt this will go very far. It's not a move by democrats in general as best I can tell, but of a few democrats.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    And I believe this is the very reason Obama & Co. have changed thier stance on rushing the bill. They wish to wait and see if they can change the rules so that they can get it passed.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Personally I think the 60 vote rule is being abused. Now it is the Republicans that is taking it to a new art, and before that it was the Democrats. From what I have read the Republicans have doubled the amount of filibusters in this Congress compared to the last Congress and that is a lot. Basically means the Senate gets nothing done.

    So looking at it from a governance point of view, the filibuster rules are quite damaging.

    The rule should be scrapped and replaced by new rules that cant be abused in the same way. As it stands now, one senator can block legislation forever if he wants too.... and that is unacceptable.

    Of course this will just turn into another partisan crap fest as usual but hey one can hope that we remain civil and non partisan.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Personally I think the 60 vote rule is being abused. Now it is the Republicans that is taking it to a new art, and before that it was the Democrats. From what I have read the Republicans have doubled the amount of filibusters in this Congress compared to the last Congress and that is a lot. Basically means the Senate gets nothing done.

    So looking at it from a governance point of view, the filibuster rules are quite damaging.

    The rule should be scrapped and replaced by new rules that cant be abused in the same way. As it stands now, one senator can block legislation forever if he wants too.... and that is unacceptable.

    Of course this will just turn into another partisan crap fest as usual but hey one can hope that we remain civil and non partisan.
    That is the way the American government works. I always get a kick out of Europeans explaining how they think the American government should be. I suppose you want our government to be socialist, and the people subjects like the rest of the Europeans.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    If they do this just to pass the health care bill, they will lose their majority in November without question. And I think that they know that.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Democrats would be wise to dump Harry Reid now and elect a new majority leader.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Democrats would be wise to dump Harry Reid now and elect a new majority leader.
    You really really should take the time to read the article before posting your usual one line thoughless comments. It would save you a ton of embarrassment.

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    More recently, Democrats used the filibuster when they were in the minority, while Republicans criticized the procedural rule. Democrats have increasingly criticized it in this Congress, though Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) are on record supporting its existence.
    Now care to explain why democrats would be smart to dump Reid over this when he opposes eliminating filibusters?
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