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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I hate that because if that's true, wtf is a filibuster there for anyway? Is it like one of those artificial 'protections' that make people feel good but really don't do ****? like a debt ceiling?
    If there's anything the health care debate has proven, it's that the filibuster matters.

    Yes, they could vote 51-49 to lift it (the "nuclear option"). But will they do so just to pass a bill as unpopular as it is huge? I think that they know that doing so would be political suicide beyond anything else.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, the filibuster is not law, but rather a Senate Rule.
    This is correct -- it is a senate rule and may be changed whenever the senate feels like it.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Than it should be up to the states to get together and try to streamline regulation. The last thing we need is all insurance based out of the state with fewest consumer protections.
    Well, that may be true -- but it does explain pretty well why you cannot currently do it.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is correct -- it is a senate rule and may be changed whenever the senate feels like it.
    This is true, although it has been challenged in the past. The US v. Ballin decision in the US Supreme Court did uphold the right of the Senate to change the rules to a simple majority. However, the tradition of the filibuster has been in the Senate so long, that to change it now would be political suicide.

    The way I read this new rule change proposal, though, it is only the procedural filibuster that would be ended. The traditional filibuster would still exist, although using it could tie up the Senate, and prevent important and timely business from being conducted. This was the reason Rule 22 was enacted in the first place.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Let's call this what it is....Liberals don't like that they are being out played in the Congress so they do what liberals always do when they lose and have the power.....They change the rules. Harkin is a simpleton that doesn't even understand the Constitution.


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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let's call this what it is....Liberals don't like that they are being out played in the Congress so they do what liberals always do when they lose and have the power.....They change the rules.
    No question about it.

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