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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Profit motive for medicine yes, but for insurance, is arguably a huge farce and waste of time
    Insurance comnpanie provide a service.
    For that, they have the right to make money.

    But, I will agree that insurance companies, like All third-party payer entities, are the problem in thay they insulate consumers from true costs.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Profit motive for medicine yes, but for insurance, is arguably a huge farce and waste of time

    You get paid to spew socialist nonsense, don't you?

    Why shouldn't others get paid to take risks and provide services?

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Questions. I couldn't find it in google. Does the Federal government not allow this or is it a result of each state having a different regulatory structure?
    I believe it's a federal law, I've lived in many states and in not a single one could I buy insurance from another state.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You get paid to spew socialist nonsense, don't you?

    Why shouldn't others get paid to take risks and provide services?
    hard to have civil political discourse with your trolling and ad hom. My point was that its the insurance thats the problem, not the service.
    Don't tread on me= Don't tread on my corporate masters

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    hard to have civil political discourse with your trolling and ad hom. My point was that its the insurance thats the problem, not the service.
    Your point was that you didn't like the fact that profits serve a purpose.

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Your point was that you didn't like the fact that profits serve a purpose.
    profits absolutely do, its the denial of a service for profit thats the problem
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    profits absolutely do, its the denial of a service for profit thats the problem
    What's wrong with denying a service that will cause you to lose money?
    Should you be forced to provide goods and services to people at a loss?
    Why should YOU have to pay to provide someone ELSE with your goods/services?

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What's wrong with denying a service that will cause you to lose money?
    Should you be forced to provide goods and services to people at a loss?
    Why should YOU have to pay to provide someone ELSE with your goods/services?
    Because you're being paid money to provide the service...

    No, and thats a structural flaw of medical insurance companies...

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    Sometimes wealth gained is not a mutual transaction. This being an example of this rarity.
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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Because you're being paid money to provide the service...
    Yes... and the conditions and stipulations in the contract describe what services can be denied, when they can be denied, and under what conditions.

    Presuming that the service in question falls under those conditions, what's wrong with denying a service that will cause you to lose money? After all, you, the insured, agreed to the terms and conditions of the contract.

    No, and thats a structural flaw of medical insurance companies.
    There's no flaw there, except in the idea that people should be forced to provide for others at their own expense.

    So, I ask again:
    Why should YOU have to pay to provide someone ELSE with your goods/services?

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    Re: Filibuster reform bill headed for Senate floor, faces uphill battle

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    That is the way the American government works. I always get a kick out of Europeans explaining how they think the American government should be. I suppose you want our government to be socialist, and the people subjects like the rest of the Europeans.
    The American system hasn't always worked like this. It's really only been in the last 10-20 years that senators have started filibustering everything under the sun, and it's only been relatively recently that senators could just SAY they are filibustering instead of ACTUALLY filibustering (i.e. continuing to talk indefinitely).
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