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The Christmas attack interrogation

Seems he talked plenty. I know people want to hurt him and think this would provide different results, but evidence doesn't support that belief. There is not likely much more we could learn from him.
 
Please rephrase the question.

Submitting now that we've gathered intel you advocated collecting...what then? If it's actionable intel....such as there are training camps for terrorists here and this person is a terrorist operative, what then? What do you advocate once actionable intel is collected?
 
Seems he talked plenty. I know people want to hurt him and think this would provide different results, but evidence doesn't support that belief. There is not likely much more we could learn from him.

Won't know that until after he's waterboarded.
 
Seems he talked plenty.

But who he talked to.....may not pick up on intel one could gather, a proper interrogation by a trained team....the type Obama promised us he'd use...would certainly have resulted in you beginning this sentence with some other word than just "seems."

I know people want to hurt him and think this would provide different results, but evidence doesn't support that belief.

People would like to find out what he knows, turn him over to military interests who are on the ground right now fighting this war.

There is not likely much more we could learn from him.

Wouldn't we all rather have a much much more informed, more aware, and more trained individual come to this conclusion? If he spent time in Yemen and was facilitated by al-Qaeda...this the President admits....I don't think those of us here on the outside can determine "not likely much more we can learn."

Your not anywhere near qualified to make that assessment. Sorry.
 
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Submitting now that we've gathered intel you advocated collecting...what then? If it's actionable intel....such as there are training camps for terrorists here and this person is a terrorist operative, what then? What do you advocate once actionable intel is collected?

The thing to do with actionable intelligence is to take action.

Survey the alleged training sites, interrogate the alleged co-conspirators, kill the people that need killing.
 
miranda rights apply to us citizens suspected of criminal behavior

they're not meant for nigerians trained, armed and sent by al qaeda to kill grammas and little girls bearing gifts on christmas

dhs's napolitano and hig's dennis blair testified last week before jiltin joe lieberman's homeland security committee, under rough questioning from john mccain, that THEY WERE NOT EVEN CONSULTED about the movement of mutallab before civil venue

that is, doj did not even CONSIDER the national security ramifications of this civilian-izing of terrorists that cost ms coakley teddy's seat

doj weighs, evidently, only the political and legal consequences of its actions, with zero eye to security

so say napolitano and blair

furthermore, mr blair blabbed that, unfortunately, his high value interrogation group (hig) was NOT PREPARED for apprehension of wannabe bombers within the united states

darn, if we'd only caught him in yemen, he suggests, we would have acted totally professional

LOL!

hig isn't even fully operational, blair submits as an excuse

this failure of the politicos at justice even to make a phone call to the security folks at dhs and within the nsc was a pretty big topic on yesterday's sunday talks

the admin once more comes off as totally incompetent

chris wallace (son of 60 minutes mike) on fns actually asked press secty gibbs IF THE PRESIDENT WAS INFORMED, unlike hig and dhs

this is just one more major screw up that aint goin away

and it contributes to the view held now by most informed americans, from all sides of all aisles, that this obama white house is simply in way too deep for its capacity

an absolute disaster, mutallab

politically, i mean

"isolated extremist," my ass

no wonder coakley's clock got cleaned

RealClearPolitics - Politics - Jan 20, 2010 - Intel chief concedes errors in Christmas bomb case
 
No, they're terrorists.

I'm not some pansy assed liberal, I'm a US military veteran. Kill'em, let their friends bury them, if they can find the peices. Move on to the next target.

I knew who you were, I was merely passing the ball.:)
 
Submitting now that we've gathered intel you advocated collecting...what then? If it's actionable intel....such as there are training camps for terrorists here and this person is a terrorist operative, what then? What do you advocate once actionable intel is collected?
Coordinate with the governments in the relevant jurisdictions to act in either a military and/or law enforcement capacity, depending upon the circumstances.
 
Coordinate with the governments in the relevant jurisdictions to act in either a military and/or law enforcement capacity, depending upon the circumstances.

That's what we've been doing, yes?
 
Because we know that information obtained under duress is guaranteed to be accurate and actionable.

A trained interrogator can unveil facts that are critical, and trained interrogators should have been called in.
 
Because we know that information obtained under duress is guaranteed to be accurate and actionable.

:roll:

We know that all information collected from the enemy should be verified before taking action.

Welcome to the real world, where the objections of the little children were figured out and dealt with long long ago.
 
So, what's with the brutality only not working statement?
Um ... intelligence gathering doesn't typically involve brutality, despite what a few messageboard Rambos wish to believe.
 
Um ... intelligence gathering doesn't typically involve brutality, despite what a few messageboard Rambos wish to believe.

And sometimes it does.

People that don't like being waterboarded should discover this before they choose to be terrorists.

"Dyin' ain't much of a livin'."
 
Um ... intelligence gathering doesn't typically involve brutality, despite what a few messageboard Rambos wish to believe.

Yeah but, what you do with your gathered intel does typically very much involve brutality. Don't it?
 
Because we know that information obtained under duress is guaranteed to be accurate and actionable.

:roll:

It depends on what kind of information is obtained. Ultimately, any information gathered during any kind of interrogation is dubious, until confirmed.
 
Um ... intelligence gathering doesn't typically involve brutality, despite what a few messageboard Rambos wish to believe.


Maybe not, but I have seen police interrogations last longer than 50 minutes. Are you really trying to say that it is acceptable for Obama's lackey, Holder to just step in and make that decision without so much as a consult with Homeland Security? It's amateur.


j-mac
 
Big ****ing difference.

The Irish have a loooooong history of good reason to hate the goddamned English, and none of it's grounded in religion.

The ****ing looney-toon terrorists are religious fanatics, and Osama's biggest complaint against the US was that Osama's uncles allowed the US to stage troops in Saudia Arabia, the so-called "holy land" of the terrorists.

The IRA were terrorists, but they could be bought.

The muslim fanatics can't be bought, so killing them is the only alternative.

To say that none of the Irish conflict is rooted in religion is somewhat inaccurate - see sources.

Religious Terrorism
Everyone wants to control the state for reasons of deeply felt religious and economic deprivations, and this desire permeates all aspects of everyday life. Religion may not be the root cause of Irish conflict, but it is definitely the fuel that flames the passions.

CAIN: FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions Page 2
What is the main cause of all the trouble in Northern Ireland? Is religion a big part of it?
The conflict in Northern Ireland is usually explained in terms of the different constitutional aspirations of the two main sections of the community in the region. Many Catholics consider themselves to be Irish and are Nationalist in political outlook, that is, they would like to see the whole (nation) island of Ireland reunited (and independent of Britain). Most Protestants consider themselves to be British and are Unionist in political outlook, that is, they want Northern Ireland to remain part of the (union of the) United Kingdom (UK) of Britain (England, Scotland, and Wales) and Northern Ireland.

Correspondents Report - High walls still divide Belfast Catholics and Protestants 19/07/2009
In the city of Belfast in Northern Ireland, 20 kilometres of wall known as the peace walls divide Protestant from Catholic.
 
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