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The Christmas attack interrogation

Coronado said:
If he actually is a loner I can't imagine he'd have all that much that would be useful to US intelligence anyway.
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He was, by all accounts, recruited, trained, and equipted by al qaeda. This was just one more point obama has been wrong about. We need to get to the organization in yemen that's responsible for this. Thanks to this democratic regime and it's insistance of workfare for lawyers and american constitutional rights for foreign combantants.....we won't do that. It's certain to cost us more american lives.
 
Coronado said:
As long as this government thinks it can defeat terrorism with nothing but brute force, it will fail. An ounce of intel is worth a pound of airport security.
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That would be intelligence we are not collecting because of this democratic regime's insistance on lawyers for terrorists.
 
Dutch said:
That would be intelligence we are not collecting because of this democratic regime's insistance on lawyers for terrorists.
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The two tasks are not mutually exclusive.
 
Coronado said:
I was advocating collection of intelligence. That's why you should have read the second sentence prior to posting.
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We cannot collect intelligence reports if we provide them with lawyers and constitional privledges.
 
Dutch said:
We cannot collect intelligence reports if we provide them with lawyers and constitional privledges.
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From the defendants, possibly not. From overseas, there should not be a problem.
 
Dutch said:
He is, at the expense of american lives. That's the problem.
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Who will die because he is being afforded his Constitutional rights? Name them.
 
Leo said:
It seems one of the key questions was never asked following the WTC and Pentagon attacks. That question was "Why do people hate us so much they are willing to die to do us harm?"
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Big ****ing difference.

The Irish have a loooooong history of good reason to hate the goddamned English, and none of it's grounded in religion.

The ****ing looney-toon terrorists are religious fanatics, and Osama's biggest complaint against the US was that Osama's uncles allowed the US to stage troops in Saudia Arabia, the so-called "holy land" of the terrorists.

The IRA were terrorists, but they could be bought.

The muslim fanatics can't be bought, so killing them is the only alternative.
 
Coronado said:
This is the United States. He should receive the same due process as everyone else.
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There's law permitting terrorists to be taken by the military and interrogated properly.

Since there's ZERO doubt of this guy's guilt, expedite the process so the captured asset can be fully utilized to our advantage.
 
Coronado said:
Who will die because he is being afforded his Constitutional rights? Name them.
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The passengers of the next plane that goes down to al qaeda operatives. I'll give you a list of names then.
 
Dutch said:
The passengers of the next plane that goes down to al qaeda operatives. I'll give you a list of names then.
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So you're just making it up. That's what I figured.

Constitutional rights are something that should be observed not just when it is convenient.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
There's law permitting terrorists to be taken by the military and interrogated properly.

Since there's ZERO doubt of this guy's guilt, expedite the process so the captured asset can be fully utilized to our advantage.
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No. He's sitting in a cell not talking to anyone but his lawyer. He's not being utilized to anyone's advantage. Meanwhile his confederates back in yemen have quietly dismantled their organization and moved to the next village, to plot the next attack.
 
Coronado said:
So you're just making it up. That's what I figured.
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I'm making up the fact al qaeda bombs planes? Really? Is that the point you really want to make?

Constitutional rights are something that should be observed not just when it is convenient.
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American consititional rights are something to be observed for every american citizen, not foreign terrorists.
 
American said:
The victims of the next terrorist attack.
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I said "name them." If you're so sure it will kill someone, obviously you will be able to provide a name.
 
Coronado said:
I said "name them." If you're so sure it will kill someone, obviously you will be able to provide a name.
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Have you notice the MSM is reporting that more and more people on the no-fly list are being turned away at airports lately?
 
American said:
Have you notice the MSM is reporting that more and more people on the no-fly list are being turned away at airports lately?
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Relevance?
 
Dutch said:
We cannot collect intelligence reports if we provide them with lawyers and constitional privledges.
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Interestingly enough, we manage to collect plenty of intelligence on criminal groups inside the U.S. (gangs, organized crime, ideology groups) and still follow the law.

If we stop following the law, who are we as a country, when the law is the basis of our democracy?
 
Dutch said:
No. He's sitting in a cell not talking to anyone but his lawyer. He's not being utilized to anyone's advantage. Meanwhile his confederates back in yemen have quietly dismantled their organization and moved to the next village, to plot the next attack.
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HellooooOOO?

I'm aware of this.

As I said, his trial should be fast tracked to expedite his availability as a walking corpse to be drained of information then discarded at our convenience.

Alternately, he should have been drained, via waterboarding or any other technique required, by the military authorities, and then turned over to the civil authorities for questioning suitable for use in a trial.

Facts of this case are that a hundred passengers witnessed this boy lighting off a bomb in his underwear, and the physical evidence of the bomb and his crisped weiner are irrefutable, so his testimony isn't even required to get a guilty conviction anyway.
 
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