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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Because we know that information obtained under duress is guaranteed to be accurate and actionable.

    It depends on what kind of information is obtained. Ultimately, any information gathered during any kind of interrogation is dubious, until confirmed.
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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It depends upon the situation.
    And depending on that situation, brutality is necessary and most importantly, effective. True?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Um ... intelligence gathering doesn't typically involve brutality, despite what a few messageboard Rambos wish to believe.

    Maybe not, but I have seen police interrogations last longer than 50 minutes. Are you really trying to say that it is acceptable for Obama's lackey, Holder to just step in and make that decision without so much as a consult with Homeland Security? It's amateur.


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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Big ****ing difference.

    The Irish have a loooooong history of good reason to hate the goddamned English, and none of it's grounded in religion.

    The ****ing looney-toon terrorists are religious fanatics, and Osama's biggest complaint against the US was that Osama's uncles allowed the US to stage troops in Saudia Arabia, the so-called "holy land" of the terrorists.

    The IRA were terrorists, but they could be bought.

    The muslim fanatics can't be bought, so killing them is the only alternative.
    To say that none of the Irish conflict is rooted in religion is somewhat inaccurate - see sources.

    Religious Terrorism
    Everyone wants to control the state for reasons of deeply felt religious and economic deprivations, and this desire permeates all aspects of everyday life. Religion may not be the root cause of Irish conflict, but it is definitely the fuel that flames the passions.
    CAIN: FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions Page 2
    What is the main cause of all the trouble in Northern Ireland? Is religion a big part of it?
    The conflict in Northern Ireland is usually explained in terms of the different constitutional aspirations of the two main sections of the community in the region. Many Catholics consider themselves to be Irish and are Nationalist in political outlook, that is, they would like to see the whole (nation) island of Ireland reunited (and independent of Britain). Most Protestants consider themselves to be British and are Unionist in political outlook, that is, they want Northern Ireland to remain part of the (union of the) United Kingdom (UK) of Britain (England, Scotland, and Wales) and Northern Ireland.
    Correspondents Report - High walls still divide Belfast Catholics and Protestants 19/07/2009
    In the city of Belfast in Northern Ireland, 20 kilometres of wall known as the peace walls divide Protestant from Catholic.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    And depending on that situation, brutality is necessary and most importantly, effective. True?
    True. Like I said, depends upon the situation.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe not, but I have seen police interrogations last longer than 50 minutes. Are you really trying to say that it is acceptable for Obama's lackey, Holder to just step in and make that decision without so much as a consult with Homeland Security? It's amateur.


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    No. Read upthread.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    True. Like I said, depends upon the situation.
    And who decides where the situation warrants brutality?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Won't know that until after he's waterboarded.
    He would confess to being the Easter Bunny then. Would that really be helpful?

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    But who he talked to.....may not pick up on intel one could gather, a proper interrogation by a trained team....the type Obama promised us he'd use...would certainly have resulted in you beginning this sentence with some other word than just "seems."



    People would like to find out what he knows, turn him over to military interests who are on the ground right now fighting this war.



    Wouldn't we all rather have a much much more informed, more aware, and more trained individual come to this conclusion? If he spent time in Yemen and was facilitated by al-Qaeda...this the President admits....I don't think those of us here on the outside can determine "not likely much more we can learn."

    Your not anywhere near qualified to make that assessment. Sorry.
    It's not that complicated. He's not Maxwell Smart let alone 007. There just isn't likely much he'd even be able to give. And as people were there when he talked, capable of relaying information, I see no reason for concern.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    And who decides where the situation warrants brutality?
    The domestic authority of the jurisdiction within which the threat is situated, after being advised from the party who developed the intelligence.

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