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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    The Taliban/al Qaeda connection was much stronger than the other connections, obviously. Your comparisons are ridiculously different and you know it.
    Connections in that the Taliban were harboring and facilitating al-Qaeda are the connections and my analogies are dead on. Point stands, the Taliban did not attack us, al-Qaeda attacked us. Today's intel shows KSM as involved as Osama during the 9-11 attacks, the USS Cole and other acts of war against out troops and embassies from Yemen to Somalia well known.


    My position is clear and consistent, and has been stated above. If you cannot understand it, then I suggest you re-read the thread.
    Your position is consistent?

    Tell me...who decides this "stronger connection" in Afghanistan. You just told me local authorities make the decision whether to use brutality....who decides for us whether connections or some other measure changes who should make this brutal decision? Who is deciding if the government is connected....or disconnected in any nation after a terror attack?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Connections in that the Taliban were harboring and facilitating al-Qaeda are the connections and my analogies are dead on. Point stands, the Taliban did not attack us, al-Qaeda attacked us. Today's intel shows KSM as involved as Osama during the 9-11 attacks, the USS Cole and other acts of war against out troops and embassies from Yemen to Somalia well known.
    You're kinda skipping over the point that the Taliban made Obama bin Laden the Commander in Chief of ALL Taliban armed forces.

    Which makes the atrocities in September 11, 2001 an act of war against the United States by the nation of Afghanistan.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    And depending on that situation, brutality is necessary and most importantly, effective. True?
    "War is hell, you cannot refine it" - William Tecumseh Sherman during the world's first modern war.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Connections in that the Taliban were harboring and facilitating al-Qaeda are the connections and my analogies are dead on.
    No they are not, they are ridiculous. I'm not going to argue this silliness with you.
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    Your position is consistent?
    Is there an echo in here? Yes, it is consistent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Tell me...who decides this "stronger connection" in Afghanistan. You just told me local authorities make the decision whether to use brutality....who decides for us whether connections or some other measure changes who should make this brutal decision? Who is deciding if the government is connected....or disconnected in any nation after a terror attack?
    The same people who have been given the Constitutional authority to do it since day one: Congress.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by satandog View Post
    To say that none of the Irish conflict is rooted in religion is somewhat inaccurate - see sources.
    The Irish-British conflict is rooted in the imperialism of the British in invading the Emerald Isle and treating the natives like dogs.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    And who decides where the situation warrants brutality?
    The military interrogator.

    We are discussing a interrogation for military intelligence, not a police investigation preparing for a trial.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He would confess to being the Easter Bunny then. Would that really be helpful?

    Yes, if it meant we would then be able to drop a MOAB on the EB - once his intel is confirmed independently.

    Why is it you people have difficulty comprehending those last six words, and why is it you people always pretend they don't exist?

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    So...the same applies for Afghanistan...last I checked they were a sovereign state as well?
    They were...until they declared war on the US on September 11, 2001.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yes, if it meant we would then be able to drop a MOAB on the EB - once his intel is confirmed independently.

    Why is it you people have difficulty comprehending those last six words, and why is it you people always pretend they don't exist?
    We haven't been too successful with that. We used Libi's intel, and later it proved false. Too late for us to do much about that. But that is the problem with intel gathered under torture. It's just not the magic answer many like to think it is. The literature says that good old fashion interrogation, even with proper rights, is more effective.

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    Re: The Christmas attack interrogation

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    But, you supported going right in after 9-11 and brutally killing or capturing Bin Laden and then told me that would have a positive effect.

    I would prefer we captured him and properly held him accountable in a court of law for all to see. A man justly convicted says more to all than killing thousands of civilians with little to show for it.

    But, you keep skipping the point. Perhaps you know you can't address the point honestly. Afghanistan is occupied. As such, they are not completely sovereign.

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