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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How much more did Palin use her family than say, Obama used his? Google "Obama Daughters" and find all the images of Obama on stage with his wife and kids.
    LOTS.. Palin's children were almost always there, where as Obama's children were back home in school for the most part.

    There was not a rally that I saw where at least one of the children usually all of the were there.

    Bottom line is, you cannot be in the national spotlight as a politicians and keep your kids or wife behind closed doors.
    No you cant, but you dont have to promote them like Palin did either.

    I'd suggest that the media made the spotlight on Palin's kids. Palin herself didn't use them as props more or less than any other politician running for VP. Yet, the media, in a frenzy to dig up dirt sent loads of reporters to Alaska to dig up anything they could and that was widely covered and the AP and other news organizations didn't deny it.
    The hell she did. I understand the family being there when she was announced, and even a few campaign spots that promoted family values or something, but at every freaking campaign stop that was shown on tv and reported about Palin had her children there. They were there when she was calling Obama a terrorist and they were there when she had the much hyped 15k town hall.

    Yet, the story NOW, which is what the OP is stating - has nothing to do with Palin though the coverage of it is meant to still disparage her. The hate is still there for Palin by many in the media and politics. Some part of it is still the fear they have for having her make decisions for this country as she is the anti-Liberal anti-Progressive and she's got people's attention and continues to garner their attention.
    No because the Palin daughter is a somewhat celeb now days thanks to her mother promoting her, her ex and her babybump on stage over and over again. Chelsea Clinton still gets mentioned in the media from time to time and she never had the same amount of exposure as Palin's kids.
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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOTS.. Palin's children were almost always there, where as Obama's children were back home in school for the most part.

    There was not a rally that I saw where at least one of the children usually all of the were there.



    No you cant, but you dont have to promote them like Palin did either.



    The hell she did. I understand the family being there when she was announced, and even a few campaign spots that promoted family values or something, but at every freaking campaign stop that was shown on tv and reported about Palin had her children there. They were there when she was calling Obama a terrorist and they were there when she had the much hyped 15k town hall.



    No because the Palin daughter is a somewhat celeb now days thanks to her mother promoting her, her ex and her babybump on stage over and over again. Chelsea Clinton still gets mentioned in the media from time to time and she never had the same amount of exposure as Palin's kids.
    Obama's kids are younger than Palin's, and yes they were exactly where they were supposed to be..in school. We don't punish kids for parent's over reactions and if we do then we don't need to beat them to a pulp.

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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    $1750/mo for one child?

    What kind of job does this kid do anyway??
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    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Obama's kids are younger than Palin's, and yes they were exactly where they were supposed to be..in school. We don't punish kids for parent's over reactions and if we do then we don't need to beat them to a pulp.
    Hog wash.

    Trig born in 2008
    Piper from 2001 (age 7 during the campaign.)
    Willow from 1995 (age 13 during the campaign.)
    Bristol from 1991 (age 17 during the campaign.)
    Track from 1989 (age 19 during the campaign.)

    Obamas kids were 5 and 8 during the campaign.

    Piper and Willow were there all the time beside Palin's side, often carrying Trig. They should have been in school as should Bristol since she had not graduated as far as I know.

    Palin exploited her own children constantly and can not come now or then and claim outrage over the media's glare on the same children. She made the bed and now she has to sleep in it.
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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hog wash.

    Trig born in 2008
    Piper from 2001 (age 7 during the campaign.)
    Willow from 1995 (age 13 during the campaign.)
    Bristol from 1991 (age 17 during the campaign.)
    Track from 1989 (age 19 during the campaign.)

    Obamas kids were 5 and 8 during the campaign.

    Piper and Willow were there all the time beside Palin's side, often carrying Trig. They should have been in school as should Bristol since she had not graduated as far as I know.

    Palin exploited her own children constantly and can not come now or then and claim outrage over the media's glare on the same children. She made the bed and now she has to sleep in it.
    At how many states during the campaign in 2008 were Piper and WIllow there carrying Trig exactly. You're view is biased against her, so you make claims that cannot be quantified. I agree, they were there some of the time but no more involved than Obama's. Your subjective view is Palin's kids were used as props MORE than Obama's. I say they were used as props just as much as Obama's. It's subjective... as is your "you made your bed" comment. The campaign is over... Bristol is an adult according to the law, yet still in the news to shill against Sarah... this is done out of fear.

    So, to summarize ...Quantify it, show every single campaign stop and the involvement with evidence and proof... otherwise, this is your opinion, it's subjective at best, and Pete you're one of the biggest partisan shills for Obama on this site. Why would anyone who thinks for themselves believe you again when you have little to no credibility to the non kool-aid drinker?


    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    The fact that Sarah Palin continues to respond to this situation says a great deal about her character. She can't let it go. If she did, the media wouldn't ignore this story, but it wouldn't be nearly the big deal it is because SP can't let it go.

    If Sarah Palin were a Democrat, the situation would be exactly the same, except Republicans would be taking delight in her troubles. The media would react exactly the same. Then again, if she were a Democrat, chances are she'd have taught her daughter how to use a condom.

    And Palin did/does use her family differently than Obama does. Go back and look at her first speech to the GOP convention. It was ALL about her wonderful family, her special-needs child, and her stellar status as a roll model: "hockey mom," anyone remember that?

    If one of Obama's daughters got pregnant, it would embarrass him, but not the way it has embarrassed Palin. Remember, she's the "abstinence-only" candidate. She had to put her daughter out there to announce she's back on the wagon. Obama's family life is very private; he's have handled it very differently.

    If the kind of defensive, reactive, public-row-oriented style is how Palin handles her family life, imagine what would happen if she were in charge of US foreign policy.

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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    At how many states during the campaign in 2008 were Piper and WIllow there carrying Trig exactly. You're view is biased against her, so you make claims that cannot be quantified. I agree, they were there some of the time but no more involved than Obama's. Your subjective view is Palin's kids were used as props MORE than Obama's. I say they were used as props just as much as Obama's. It's subjective... as is your "you made your bed" comment. The campaign is over... Bristol is an adult according to the law, yet still in the news to shill against Sarah... this is done out of fear.

    So, to summarize ...Quantify it, show every single campaign stop and the involvement with evidence and proof... otherwise, this is your opinion, it's subjective at best, and Pete you're one of the biggest partisan shills for Obama on this site. Why would anyone who thinks for themselves believe you again when you have little to no credibility to the non kool-aid drinker?


    LOL the classic attempt to derail the debate.. give me empirical evidence that is near impossible to give.

    How about you prove that the Obama girls were at campaign events in near equal or equal amounts as the Palin children under age 18?
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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL the classic attempt to derail the debate.. give me empirical evidence that is near impossible to give.

    How about you prove that the Obama girls were at campaign events in near equal or equal amounts as the Palin children under age 18?
    Neither can be proven, hence my statement that it's a subjective view. I'm willing to say they were the same, you claim it was much more and Palin deserves everything she gets.

    Of course, your claim is irrelevant to this thread... if you make a claim especially one so emphatic, arrogant and partisan as yours is -- then prove it. Since you cannot provide empirical evidence, and I'm willing to concede both used their kids equally as much... it's all on you brother.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Neither can be proven, hence my statement that it's a subjective view. I'm willing to say they were the same, you claim it was much more and Palin deserves everything she gets.

    Of course, your claim is irrelevant to this thread... if you make a claim especially one so emphatic, arrogant and partisan as yours is -- then prove it. Since you cannot provide empirical evidence, and I'm willing to concede both used their kids equally as much... it's all on you brother.
    I think you are wrong here. Just this week Sarah had Bristol on Oprah with her. I felt sad for Bristol. Only 19 and having your mom talk about your sexual activity on national tv.

    It is that same old "leave my children alone" and then drag them out in front of every tv camera you can.

    Her discussing her youngest son with Down's Syndrome I think was done with that parent concern and also points to be made politically. One thing that always makes me wonder would be how much did she promote for special need kids before her son was born? Same thing for Michael J Fox how much did he compaign for Parkinson's disease before he had it?

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    Re: Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hog wash.

    Trig born in 2008
    Piper from 2001 (age 7 during the campaign.)
    Willow from 1995 (age 13 during the campaign.)
    Bristol from 1991 (age 17 during the campaign.)
    Track from 1989 (age 19 during the campaign.)

    Obamas kids were 5 and 8 during the campaign.

    Piper and Willow were there all the time beside Palin's side, often carrying Trig. They should have been in school as should Bristol since she had not graduated as far as I know.

    Palin exploited her own children constantly and can not come now or then and claim outrage over the media's glare on the same children. She made the bed and now she has to sleep in it.
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