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    Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely - washingtonpost.com

    A Justice Department-led task force has concluded that nearly 50 of the 196 detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, should be held indefinitely without trial under the laws of war, according to Obama administration officials.

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    The task force has recommended that Guantanamo Bay detainees be divided into three main groups: about 35 who should be prosecuted in federal or military courts; at least 110 who can be released, either immediately or eventually; and the nearly 50 who must be detained without trial.

    Administration officials argue that detaining terrorism suspects under Congress's authorization of the use of force against al-Qaeda and the Taliban is legal and that each detainee has the right to challenge his incarceration in habeas corpus proceedings in federal court.
    I'm glad to see Obama's not caving on this, though it raises one pretty obvious question: If we're holding 50 of them indefinitely without giving them a trial, then why are we closing Gitmo?
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

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    I'm glad to see Obama's not caving on this, though it raises one pretty obvious question: If we're holding 50 of them indefinitely without giving them a trial, then why are we closing Gitmo?
    Simply because it was a slogan, not an actual policy, made without any serious consideration on the matter.
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    This is another one of those realities that came out of nowhere and smacked PBO in the mouth.
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    A Justice Department-led task force has concluded that nearly 50 of the 196 detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, should be held indefinitely without trial under the laws of war, according to Obama administration officials.
    Oh......Boo Radley.......where is your outrage.
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

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    I'm glad to see Obama's not caving on this, though it raises one pretty obvious question: If we're holding 50 of them indefinitely without giving them a trial, then why are we closing Gitmo?
    Same **** different pile.

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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Simply because it was a slogan, not an actual policy, made without any serious consideration on the matter.
    If the slogan was good, that means the reputation of the place was bad. So if shutting down the place is good for public relations, and we can still keep the prisoners, why not do it?
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    If the slogan was good, that means the reputation of the place was bad. So if shutting down the place is good for public relations, and we can still keep the prisoners, why not do it?
    Where are we gonna keep these prisoners?
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Where are we gonna keep these prisoners?
    Who cares? We have 1.5 million people in federal prison, 50 more isn't going to change anything. 27% of our prisoners are already non-citizens. We have Supermax facilities that have never been escaped from. As far as I know, none of them have a bad international reputation. Pick one.
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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Honestly they should be interogated on the battlefield, either shot afterwards or used for some purpose. Holding them is not a solution. It isnt different then shooting them from a Predator drone, their faight is already sealed.


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    Re: Justice task force recommends about 50 Guantanamo detainees be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    If the slogan was good, that means the reputation of the place was bad. So if shutting down the place is good for public relations, and we can still keep the prisoners, why not do it?
    And why do you think the reputation of Guantanamo was so bad?

    One of the most intense controversies of the Bush years was the administration's indefinite imprisoning of "War on Terror" detainees without charges of any kind. So absolute was the consensus among progressives and Democrats against this policy that a well-worn slogan was invented to object: a "legal black hole." Liberal editorial pages routinely cited the refusal to charge the detainees -- not the interrogation practices there -- in order to brand the camp a "dungeon," a "gulag," a "tropical purgatory," and a "black-hole embarrassment." As late as 2007, Democratic Senators like Pat Leahy, on the floor of the Senate, cited the due-process-free imprisonments to rail against Guantanamo as "a national disgrace, an international embarrassment to us and to our ideals, and a festering threat to our security," as well as "a legal black hole that dishonors our principles."
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