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Liberal talk-radio network Air America to cease operations

Erod said:
Your hatred for Rush is a result of him continually winning every argument against liberals for two decades. He's so far ahead of their every move, it's like he's got their playbook in his hand.
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Not at all.

Rush is a blowhard idiot.

It's that SIMPLE.
 
Alvin T. Grey said:
Didn't Maddow go on to host her own show, and Frankin become a senitor?
If they were two of the main draws, the loss of them would seriously curtail the add revenue.
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Franken became a "senitor" by magically having more votes in some precincts than there were voters registered, sometimes by surprisingly finding new votes in boxes in the trunk of his car.
 
Grim17 said:
You're entitled to your opinion, but you would have thought that train wreck would have taken place sometime during the last 22 years on the air. Instead, Rush and all of conservative talk radio is only getting stronger.
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Conservative radio/news might be getting stronger, but it's not because what they say is right or close to the truth. Do you honestly believe that? :confused:
 
disneydude said:
Your post once again defies logic. Are you seriously trying to argue that Obama got elected because of left-wing talk propoganda? That's a good one.
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In large part, yes.

Left wing talk propaganda denigrated ever success of Bush, refused to discuss the idiocy of Obama, and in general has been playing Protect the Liberal for the last thirty years.

When the people only get one side of a story, all the time, why shouldn't someone as inexperienced as the Messiah win when someone as bad as McCain, the Left's preferred candidate, is the other choice?
 
Middleground said:
Conservative radio/news might be getting stronger, but it's not because what they say is right or close to the truth.
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What is it they are saying and how is it not the truth?
 
Middleground said:
Not at all.

Rush is a blowhard idiot.

It's that SIMPLE.
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No offense, but you're not an American and you just informed us that Canada--as far as you know--doesn't have any talking head shows, so it's no surprise that you don't like any of them. You're looking at it from a totally different perspective and socialization.
 
Middleground said:
Conservative radio/news might be getting stronger, but it's not because what they say is right or close to the truth. Do you honestly believe that? :confused:
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Then what is it? Americans are a buncha stupid racists?
 
Grim17 said:
I believe that 20 million listeners per week would disagree with you... and that's only Hannity and Becks audience. Now if you want to include Rush Limbaugh in the mix... Oh my....

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I would imagine that, after spending the day online, at work, at home, with everyone around thinking one is a retard because of their political views, FOXNews is a very pleasant sanctuary or, port-in-a-storm, if you will, for these folks to gather. But, I personally think there are more than 20 million dumbasses within viewing range. But many probably don't have cable available at their trailer parks yet. :mrgreen:
 
apdst said:
Then what is it? Americans are a buncha stupid racists?
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No, I think Americans love sensationalism and drama. Political commentary shows hand that very thing out in copious amounts.
 
apdst said:
Then what is it? Americans are a buncha stupid racists?
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Their point was as long as Corp America backs Rush and friends they will get bigger. Rush has rarely if ever been right. He tells people what they want to hear, little more.
 
pugetsoundwa said:
Their point was as long as Corp America backs Rush and friends they will get bigger. Rush has rarely if ever been right. He tells people what they want to hear, little more.
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I agree with most of what Rush says. Looks like alotta folks do. Why is that ya think?
 
pugetsoundwa said:
Their point was as long as Corp America backs Rush and friends they will get bigger. Rush has rarely if ever been right. He tells people what they want to hear, little more.
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Actually, that's backwards. Rush et al. have ratings, which is why they have corporate backing.
 
Re: Breaking: Air America Ceases Live Programming, Will File for Bankruptcy

pugetsoundwa said:
Perhaps but Rush's Show was created by the GOP. They charged the large stations to air his program just as any show would. However they donated his show free of charge or at greatly reduced rates to the smaller stations. They wanted to blanket the Nation with his show. Thus certain areas might only have a handfull of radio stations and they wanted to insure Rush was on them. The station got the show free and could pocket all the advertising money they received. In no time his show was National and they could spread the GOP agenda. Most Talkshow hosts get big by hard work and spread once their name is know. Not Rush, the GOP made him a mouth piece and built his show for him..
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Where did you get this fantasy from?

From an write-up in that well-known GOP organ, the New York Times (Dec 16 1990):

SOME 20 BLOCKS UPTOWN sits the man who put Limbaugh in that room. Ed McLaughlin is a former president of ABC network radio turned independent producer-distributor. In 1987, he started EFM Media Management, handling Dr. Dean Edell's medical advice show. Two years ago, McLaughlin was tipped off by a consultant to a hot talent in Sacramento, Calif. He flew out, listened to Rush Limbaugh's program in his hotel room . . . and hated it. "He sounds like a real braggart," McLaughlin thought, responding in the way many initially do to what Limbaugh calls "my pompous arrogance shtick."

But then he met Limbaugh, liked him and gave him another hearing, this time under normal listening conditions -- in a car, driving around Sacramento. Now he found Limbaugh compelling. "If you're driving and things are distracting, it's easy to tune out," McLaughlin says. "I found myself not tuning out with Rush."

Finally, McLaughlin came to think that Limbaugh was an exceptional talent, a charismatic showman who understood how to use radio, as well as a strong personality with genuine convictions. Strong enough, in fact, to pluck out of Sacramento and make a national star.

Eventually, the two signed a contract that made them partners in the Rush Limbaugh business. McLaughlin wanted to try marketing Limbaugh in a new way. Talk radio is predominantly a local institution. The few national talk stars (such as the all-knowing adviser Bruce Williams, the relentlessly empathetic Sally Jessy Raphael and the chronic interviewers Larry King and Tom Snyder) are essentially uncontroversial figures who tend to get packaged by their networks along with other features and can only be heard at night, when radio audiences are smaller. McLaughlin's idea was to buck these trends, selling Limbaugh as a separate entity and in daytime. The advantage: the much bigger daytime audience. The disadvantage: having to convince major local radio stations to surrender three key hours a day for a national show.
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The Rush Hours - Glossary - NYTimes.com
 
Harshaw said:
Maybe, but there was all that fanfare and grandstanding right at the beginning. They were out to beat Limbaugh and other right-wing radio hosts at their own game.

As such, both Franken and Garofalo hosted shows which appeared to be liberal copies of what they thought those shows were. The problem was, it wasn't. They didn't understand the medium, they didn't understand what the other hosts actually do, and it showed.

The only "real" radio host who actually got it, in the first crop, was Randi Rhodes. Of course, she went nuts and turned ridiculously crude and nasty, and that was the end of that.
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Conservative radio has the medium to a T. I never listened to Air America, but I assume their hosts had no clue what they were doing.
 
Gibberish said:
It's a completely different demographic. Rush and more conservative commentators have a much older demographic, who still listen to the radio, read the newspaper, and leave their TV on news all day long. More liberal commentators have to focus on connecting to younger demographics through websites, podcasts, online streaming, and RSS feeds.

That's not to say substance is a requirement as well. I tried listening to Air America twice and couldn't last 30 minutes.
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Conservative radio shows have very strong involvement from younger demographics. I listen to Michael Medved on the way to school everyday, and many of his callers are in their twenties and early thirties. Like you said, they do well in major metropolitan areas, and lots of young people have to commute.
 
disneydude said:
Most likely it went under because us Liberals do not like listening to propoganda....whether it be from the far left or the far right.
Right-wing radio does well because their target market breathes on that type of propoganda.

Talk radio is nothing but propoganda.....I'm actually glad to see less of it on the air, even if it was left-wing propoganda.
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Call Medved's show and tell him he's nothing but a propaganda minister. I want to hear that debate...:lol:
 
I used to listen to Medved only because i didn't like listening to Big Ed Schultz..Mike is too much of a Israel mouth piece to me. He rarely goes a show without pointing out he's Jewish or mentioning Israel. not to mention he still reviews movies..lol claims he doesn't support govt funded programs yet used to work for PBS...go figure.
 
apdst said:
Academia and science aren't formats for political punditry
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Not explicitly, but it's undeniable that some people in those areas use their media to express their political views. And that's OK.

apdst said:
and in case you haven't noticed, the news paper business is going down the toilet.
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Those are just examples of formats where liberals dominate; I'm not really focusing on the overall financial viability of the format.
 
I am happy to report that the reasons given for the shut down are a lie. Yes the reason was economical bur it was not the fault of the economy. It was the fault of the content of the programing pure and simple.

Look at the ratings for so-called main stream TV news, it's in the toilet. Why? Because of it's Liberal content & agenda and slant and it's getting worse.

Now look at Fox News. It's through the roof in the ratings and going gang busters. Why? Because of content and people have begun to catch on to the Obama strategy of lie and if you get caught come up with an even bigger lie, or make another promise you don't intend to keep.

Liberals have very few original ideas. They tend to try old failed policies from the past that have never worked but they keep trying hoping for a different outcome, and as everyone knows that is the definition of crazy. This what the saying Liberalism is a mental illness was born from.

Obama is trying once again to push Socialism/Marxism and it's doomed to fail because it counts on people who work hard to keep working to support those who only take as is the way of Socialism.

Airbag Anti-America was doomed from the start as Lame Stream Obamedia TV has become of late because they are lacking in original ideas, and the solutions to evey problem is taxes which will never be the answer because it stifles growth.

Airbag America wa only on 100 stations and couldn't make a go of it because they had no listeners. Rush who I don't care for personally in on over 480 stations and is personally making tens of millions of dollars, and it's all about content.

A survey a few years back stated that about 40% of Rush's audience was comprised of people other than Republicans because they wanted to hear what he was saying about them, and I believed it then and I believe it's true today.

Airbag Anti-America will not be missed for 2 seconds except for the two people who listened.

KGO in San Franfreako is the only Liberal talk radio station that is doing okay but they have problems too. One of their big stars was Bernie Ward, now doing time in and Oklahomo federal prison for Child Porn. Way to go Bernie.

Funny thing is Liberals only have a problem after the law gets involved as a Catholic priest Ward was in trouble for complaints of sexual activity with minors way before he went o KGO, and they had to know it when they hired him.

Love those Liberal, some actually claim to be Christians and that is impossible, because you can't be a Christian and support the murder of innocent unborn children. This one catches a lot of Liberals in the lie and it's another reason Liberals don't have an audience on Talk Radio. No credibility.
 
Re: Breaking: Air America Ceases Live Programming, Will File for Bankruptcy

pugetsoundwa said:
Perhaps but Rush's Show was created by the GOP. They charged the large stations to air his program just as any show would. However they donated his show free of charge or at greatly reduced rates to the smaller stations. They wanted to blanket the Nation with his show. Thus certain areas might only have a handfull of radio stations and they wanted to insure Rush was on them. The station got the show free and could pocket all the advertising money they received. In no time his show was National and they could spread the GOP agenda. Most Talkshow hosts get big by hard work and spread once their name is know. Not Rush, the GOP made him a mouth piece and built his show for him..
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Would you please post some kind of documentation to back up your absurd allegations?

Welcome to the forum.... you'll find that opinions are like assholes around here. Everyone has one, and they all stink without documentation to back them up.
 
Erod said:
OK, I'm with you on the media. What about science and academia? Should they be politically biased in the way they teach or research, as they are?
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I don't see any way that can be avoided. Professors and scientists, like anyone else, are going to have their own political views which will have an impact on how they present their material. Writers, newspaper editors, and TV reporters are the same way. I don't really have a problem with it. It's not like people can or should be silenced from expressing their views.
 
The Big Kahuna said:
Or Liberals just don't like propaganda...even from their side.
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I disagree. There's propaganda from all sides of the political spectrum. However, I think left-wing propaganda tends to be a little more subtle, so that people are less likely to recognize it as "propaganda."

The Beck/Limbaugh image of an angry guy hooting and hollering about the latest atrocity their political opponents have committed...that just doesn't really appeal to most liberals. But left-wingers will eat up propaganda if it comes from Professor Smith at Prestige University.

That's just my take on it. Propaganda is widespread, it just comes in different formats with varying degrees of intelligence.
 
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