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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's crap. The voters choose the congressmen. No amount of money can change that.
    special interest money is what made them congressmen in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Yes. I agree they do.

    Yet Jack Abramoff and his like are what Vader was getting at. We can vote out constituents, but not lobbyists. These people are usually more talented, better paid, and have a silky tongue even Obama would envy.
    Wait, didn't you question that very idea in post 949? Can't keep track of your own corporatist hypocrisy?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Good thing only congressmen have power. Lobbyists have no vote.
    unless they have a congressman in their pocket.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    But in the end it shouldn't matter. If our politicians get swayed by lobbyists to vote against their constituents wishes, then they should be voted out.

    Maybe the solution would be shorter terms for senators.
    Maybe the solution is public campaign finance instead of having our politicians spending so much time raising money and doing favors for that money.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Maybe the solution is public campaign finance instead of having our politicians spending so much time raising money and doing favors for that money.
    Maybe the solution is the First Amendment and allowing people the opportunity to use their own money to promote their own ideas.

    Nowhere in the Constitution is the federal government allowed to finance campaigns for elective office.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    special interest money is what made them congressmen in the first place.
    No, the voters did.

    I don't know if you noticed, but we have elections. The people choose. If you don't like who they choose, or why, that's too bad. If they choose the people who spend the most special interest money on ads, that's their choice. Your contempt for the intelligence and responsibility of the American voter is disgusting.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    unless they have a congressman in their pocket.
    No they don't. They still have no vote. Do you not understand how that works?

    The congressman is 100% responsible for his vote. If he's "in a lobbyist's pocket" it's still his vote. If the voters don't like what he does, they can just get rid of him.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    I keep saying it because it is true.

    How loud would you be screaming if the court had ruled instead that GOONIONS, your beloved goonions, couldn't pay member's money for political purposes?

    Would we have to measure the outrage on the Left on the Richter Scale?
    Just as loud. I don't believe anyone should be giving more or less than anyone else. I think everyone should pitch in 5-10 dollars (or whatever the agreed upon number) into an election pool as part of public campaign finance. That way we as voters can vote on what we want instead of what the corporatists want.

    I'm a social libertarian, not the lefty democrat you'd like to group me with. You lose.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Since when does a whole have less than the sum of its parts?
    Nice try but that is a specious argument in regards to the subject.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    As soon as a majority of voters elect him.

    You have a problem with majority rule by voters?
    Yes, when they are uneducated and easily swayed by massive ad campaigns that seek to distort the truth or ignore the truth altogether.

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