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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I know, you keep saying it as if it will magically become true.
    No.

    I keep saying it because it is true.

    How loud would you be screaming if the court had ruled instead that GOONIONS, your beloved goonions, couldn't pay member's money for political purposes?

    Would we have to measure the outrage on the Left on the Richter Scale?
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It is logical to assume that if congressmen are voting for laws that constituents don't like then they'll be voted out of office. I mean, we do have elections, right?
    The United States Senate has less turnover than the Politburo had.

    At least Politburo members finally died.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    If it's not a person then how can it possibly have rights protected under the constitution that a person has?
    Since when does a whole have less than the sum of its parts?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Maybe senators should be voted in via the approval of a state congress?
    I wouldn't mind that either. With shorter term limits both methods would be equally effective.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Maybe senators should be voted in via the approval of a state congress?
    Someone took your bait.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's not a talking point, it's empirical fact. Unions fill out the bulk of the list of biggest campaign donors.
    First, the ability to spend is far more relevant than past spending habits. Corporate interest groups need only threaten to swamp the airwaves with ads to achieve their goal. This is not conjecture. It has been repeated by veteran Washington insiders and the evidence is quite obvious in the H.C. legislation.

    Second, corporations and unions are not always at odds as so many people in this thread seem to assume. You cannot be serious that the Sierra Club (for example) has any chance of being heard against the combined advertising budget of corporate interests plus unions !?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And death to US democracy. So when is the new Senator for Bank of America going to take his seat?
    Perhaps you really that we won't go the route of the EU?

    Thank you, Surpeme Court!
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And death to US democracy. So when is the new Senator for Bank of America going to take his seat?
    As soon as a majority of voters elect him.

    You have a problem with majority rule by voters?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I never thought of it that way. Maybe it will. I just dislike business and politics being in bed with one another.

    Maybe ... I just do not trust business ... or the government to be honest.
    I see "Tea Party" under your name. And your first distrust is against business? How can someone who supports the Tea Party concept (most of us strongly support the U. S. Constitution) be more skeptical against business than government. Business makes government possible, although you would never understand this from the present, opaque administration.

    As others have written, McCain-Feingold is bad legislation that takes away the voice of business but somehow allows the liberal leanings of big unions to remain in power. This bill showed McCain at his worst (right up there with amnesty for illegals) and Feingold as expected... and it was bad for the rest of us. If anything, this bill shows another reason for a contender to knock off McCain this fall.

    Perhaps some transparency can come during 2010 even if it goes against the Dems in power.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    I see "Tea Party" under your name. And your first distrust is against business? How can someone who supports the Tea Party concept (most of us strongly support the U. S. Constitution) be more skeptical against business than government. Business makes government possible, although you would never understand this from the present, opaque administration.
    The Tea Party label is his attempt at wit (plus some way of getting back at American for calling himself "Very Liberal").

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