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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I had no problem with how he did that either.

    But he came this close to outright lying about what the decision did. I'm a strong Obama supporter, but that was very disappointing.
    I think he's talking about the meeting with repubs and not the State of the Union speech.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So now the President is responsible when people stand?
    THe President's remarks were inappropriate, it was a State of the Union Speech. He could have honored the Court, spoken to it's newest member, and added something like...and where we don't always agree, this Court is a shining example of justice and solid interpretation as it has been for decades...and then allow everyone to applause. He didn't because he's inexperienced and an arrogant clown.

    The SOTU is the place, and has been for many many Presidents before Obama. The fact that you never noticed until now is telling.
    It isn't the place to chastise the Supreme Court on recent decisions, sorry, that isn't true. Just like, Joint sessions of Congress aren't for rescuing your overbearing and losing politically health care fiasco. Just like, Press conferences designed for health care aren't designed to tangent off into some Cambridge Police event that turns out to be the next days main topic of discussion, thus, rather than having Repubs in to discuss health care, we had to embarrass ourselves with a beer summit at the WH so we didn't look so out of touch. Obama is such an amateur, such a disaster. The first lesson in public speaking any of us learn is to remain on topic. Obama off the teleprompter is a class one disaster of the first magnitude.

    This President defines flip flop. He makes John Kerry look rock solid and consistent. What a joke.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you support PBO sucker punching someone on national TV, when those persons weren't able to defend themselves? His actions were cowardly.
    Were you against other presidents doing it or just democrat presidents or is it just Obama?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns


    wow! Media Matters? Really? Is that what we are degraded to accepting as final word on something now? A hack site that purposely snips, and cuts transcripts so as to shape their biased drivel?


    So let's see what it is that they are attributing Reagan with attacking....They say two times.

    Once in 1984 when he attacked the decision made more than 10 years earlier, not what I would consider a direct attack on the members sitting before him. And then there is the 1988 SOTU they cite, and the citation....


    Quote Originally Posted by Reagan 1988 SOTU
    And let me add here: So many of our greatest statesmen have reminded us that spiritual values alone are essential to our nation's health and vigor. The Congress opens its proceedings each day, as does the Supreme Court, with an acknowledgment of the Supreme Being. Yet we are denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray. I believe Congress should pass our school prayer amendment.

    Now, to make sure there is a full nine member Supreme Court to interpret the law, to protect the rights of all Americans, I urge the Senate to move quickly and decisively in confirming Judge Anthony Kennedy to the highest Court in the land and to also confirm 27 nominees now waiting to fill vacancies in the Federal judiciary.

    Ronald Reagan
    How in the absolute hell is that anything like this?:

    Quote Originally Posted by Obama attacking the Court
    With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests -- including foreign corporations -- to spend without limit in our elections. I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people. And I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems.

    Obama

    Now let's check what Obama said for fact.


    Politifact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning Web site from the St. Petersburg Times, did some research when Obama first made the claim in his weekly radio address last weekend and found that it was barely true. Obama's statements on whether foreign companies can spend money in U.S. political campaigns "overstated the ruling's immediate impact."

    Current federal law prevents "a partnership, association, corporation, organization, or other combination of persons organized under the laws of or having its principal place of business in a foreign country" from making, "directly or indirectly," a donation or expenditure "in connection with a federal, state, or local election," to a political party committee or "for an electioneering communication."

    State of the Union 2010: Fact Check of President Obama's Address - ABC News

    I'd say untrue...But noting PolitiFact's already documented bias, this is damning.


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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Were you against other presidents doing it or just democrat presidents or is it just Obama?

    Regardless of what Media Matters trys to pass off here, their case is weak to say the least.


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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Regardless of what Media Matters trys to pass off here, their case is weak to say the least.


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    Right, you look so intelligent bashing media matters without disproving anything.

    Instead of just pissing on your shoes, why not disprove what they say?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    It isn't the place to chastise the Supreme Court on recent decisions, sorry, that isn't true.
    Says who? Several presidents have done it before.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Regardless of what Media Matters trys to pass off here, their case is weak to say the least.
    Actually, it's quite strong. Just saying it isn't doesn't change the facts.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Right, you look so intelligent bashing media matters without disproving anything.

    Instead of just pissing on your shoes, why not disprove what they say?

    You must only read postings directed to you?


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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Says who? Several presidents have done it before.
    During the State of the Union?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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