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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's even funnier how you seem to think it's wrong when someone else does it, yet use that as an excuse for your messiah to do it.
    I never said it was wrong when someone else does it. I said just the opposite.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Did you feel like a cigarette afterwards?
    I am sorry but I seem to have gone off topic, again. Can you link me to an obama thread and I will answer You?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Leading on a standing ovation behind the SCJustices is inappropriate
    So now the President is responsible when people stand?

    The State of the Union isn't the place, the fact that you can't admit this is telling. Yer normally better than this, misterman.
    The SOTU is the place, and has been for many many Presidents before Obama. The fact that you never noticed until now is telling.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I never said it was wrong when someone else does it. I said just the opposite.
    I already know that...

    Thanks for being honest about it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already know that...

    Thanks for being honest about it.
    You're even confused about being confused. Impressive.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The SOTU is the place, and has been for many many Presidents before Obama. The fact that you never noticed until now is telling.

    Could you point out for us, when in history has the President of the United States ever chastised the court in an SOTU, and followed it up with demonizing their decision on a particular case, and vowed to the country to do everything he could to nullify it?


    Obama's frontal assault on the Supreme Court in a State of the Union is almost unheard of for a President. Typically, Presidents who get bad Supreme Court rulings (and they've all gotten their share) grimace and bear it, taking the position that the "court has spoken." I don't ever remember a Democratic president, in a State of the Union address, take on the Supreme Court for a recent decision and dare Congress to overturn it.

    Alito Winces as Obama Slams Supreme Court Ruling - Crossroads - CBS News

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Could you point out for us, when in history has the President of the United States ever chastised the court in an SOTU, and followed it up with demonizing their decision on a particular case, and vowed to the country to do everything he could to nullify it?
    Harding criticized the Supreme Court for overturning the Child Labor Law in his 1922 State of the Union. In 1922, the Supreme Court found the Child Labor Law of 1919 to be unconstitutional. In his State of the Union address, President Warren G. Harding criticized the court for putting "this problem outside the proper domain of Federal regulation until the Constitution is so amended as to give the Congress indubitable authority. I recommend the submission of such an amendment."

    Reagan criticized the court for its ruling on school prayer. In his 1988 State of the Union address, Reagan expressed his displeasure with the court's recent ruling on school prayer:

    And let me add here: So many of our greatest statesmen have reminded us that spiritual values alone are essential to our nation's health and vigor. The Congress opens its proceedings each day, as does the Supreme Court, with an acknowledgment of the Supreme Being. Yet we are denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray. I believe Congress should pass our school prayer amendment.

    Reagan directly attacked the Supreme Court for Roe v. Wade. In his 1984 State of the Union address, Reagan attacked the 1973 Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade, during a discussion on abortion:

    And while I'm on this subject, each day your Members observe a 200-year-old tradition meant to signify America is one nation under God. I must ask: If you can begin your day with a member of the clergy standing right here leading you in prayer, then why can't freedom to acknowledge God be enjoyed again by children in every schoolroom across this land?

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    During our first 3 years, we have joined bipartisan efforts to restore protection of the law to unborn children. Now, I know this issue is very controversial. But unless and until it can be proven that an unborn child is not a living human being, can we justify assuming without proof that it isn't? No one has yet offered such proof; indeed, all the evidence is to the contrary. We should rise above bitterness and reproach, and if Americans could come together in a spirit of understanding and helping, then we could find positive solutions to the tragedy of abortion.

    Bush condemned "activist judges" who are "redefining marriage by court order." In his 2004 State of the Union address, Bush criticized "activist judges" who, according to him, were "redefining marriage by court order":

    Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our Nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

    The outcome of this debate is important, and so is the way we conduct it. The same moral tradition that defines marriage also teaches that each individual has dignity and value in God's sight.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    And if Obama thinks something is a legitimate threat to the Union, he should state it, which he did. It doesn't matter where the threat comes from.
    Obama is THE legitimate threat to the nation.

    I don't recall him saying that in his State of the Union Show.


    Fact of the matter is that Obama's statement was factually wrong, since the Supreme Court did not excise those sections of the law banning foreign interference in US political campaigns.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Suuuure.

    This decision will have very little impact, since corporations - and unions - were already able to spend all they want on political speech before, they just had to barely pretend it was something else.
    Unfortunately you are wrong. The SCOTUS decision says that corporations are not restricted and can use the corporations money to run politcal ads or make political videos or movies.

    Maybe you're unfamiliar with the ruling, after 23 pages.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Transparency, bs. If Obama wanted to have a real give a take session it would have been behind closed doors. Posing for the cameras shows he really has no intention of finding common ground. He knew the public wanted bipartisanship, so he gave them a photo op.

    Is he a snakeoil salesman or a real leader?
    Oh Brother... You're kidding right? Posing for the cameras? He took scripted questions and bashed the repubs with off the cuff rebuttals. No teleprompter necessary, just a good old thrashing. Not to mention that it was the repubs who wanted the cameras in the room.

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