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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    As you surely know, but I will repeat, the first amendment states:


    There is nothing that declares those rights to be individual rights.

    That this applies to a corporation involved in economic activity is beside the point and doesn't matter. That a corporations management team is the people that determine a companies message doesn't matter.

    Nothing is preventing china from spending money in the US for elections. I don't know about "destroying" our country. I think we can withstand a media barrage of their opinion. This "problem" has nothing to do with whether companies have protected speech.

    Try "We the People" in the preamble. the enumerations are in the constitution to back up and support the preamble.


    I read press and people in the amendment but I don't see corporations.

    How can we withstand a media barrage when we don't know it's them that are doing it?

    The power of advertising is awesome. Example: "What are you, some kind of rodeo clown" Do you know what commercial that is from. Remember "Where's the beef?". Close your eyes and think about all of the brainwashing commercials running around in your head. Hey man, how about the green stupid lizard in the geico commercials. I would love to smash him.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    “The majority blazes through our precedents,” he wrote, “overruling or disavowing a body of case law” that included seven decisions.
    This is not necessarily a bad thing. This can be a good thing.

    “Such an assumption,” he wrote, “would have accorded the propaganda broadcasts to our troops by ‘Tokyo Rose’ during World War II the same protection as speech by Allied commanders.”
    I think that is fair. She did not incite the overthrow of our government nor create a clear and present danger. Her speech should be protected.

    “While American democracy is imperfect,” he wrote, “few outside the majority of this court would have thought its flaws included a dearth of corporate money in politics.”
    What is the problem with a dearth of corporate money in politics? It is going to happen either on top of the table or under the table regardless.


    the man has acquired a lifetime of wisdom in his almost 90 years. too bad the majority members of the court are unworthy to appreciate it
    This does not make him right.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Try "We the People" in the preamble. the enumerations are in the constitution to back up and support the preamble.


    I read press and people in the amendment but I don't see corporations.

    How can we withstand a media barrage when we don't know it's them that are doing it?

    The power of advertising is awesome. Example: "What are you, some kind of rodeo clown" Do you know what commercial that is from. Remember "Where's the beef?". Close your eyes and think about all of the brainwashing commercials running around in your head. Hey man, how about the green stupid lizard in the geico commercials. I would love to smash him.
    We the people does not specify individuals.

    The term "press" in the First Amendment does not refer to companies engaged in the business of publishing. It refers to the act of publishing.

    You withstand a media barrage by educating yourself, same as always.

    Oh yeah, love the graphic!

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    We the people does not specify individuals.
    You're just being blatantly ignorant of the spirit of the Constitution.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    We the people does not specify individuals.

    The term "press" in the First Amendment does not refer to companies engaged in the business of publishing. It refers to the act of publishing.

    You withstand a media barrage by educating yourself, same as always.

    Oh yeah, love the graphic!
    You are talking about a majority of people who would rather watch reality shows, american idol, or the play offs rather than a presidential speech. It's a scary thing.

    Well, I enjoyed talking to you but it's time to recharge my batteries.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're just being blatantly ignorant of the spirit of the Constitution.
    Nope, don't think so. What's this spirit of the constitution, by the way? You have a link?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You are talking about a majority of people who would rather watch reality shows, american idol, or the play offs rather than a presidential speech. It's a scary thing.

    Well, I enjoyed talking to you but it's time to recharge my batteries.
    It is a scary thing. Of course, that speech sucked, so it's more of the same. Oh yeah, NOW jobs are a priority. jeez.

    Nice to talk to you, too.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    They have no input in how the company is run. They can vote out the ceos every year or sell their stock but they have no direct control over what the companies do, be it good or evil.
    Do you think we U.S. citizens have any input on how the United States is run?

    I am on the fence with this decision. I don't like heavy regulation of corporations. On the other hand, I can see potential problems in this. Corporations have all the money. If for whatever reason corporations share a certain opinion on an issue that poorer people do not, it will be a biased issue. The corporations will be able to spend money to help elect their candidates, but the voices of the poorer people will not be heard. More money allows you to project you free speech louder.

    What exactly did this decision do? Can somebody link me to a nonbiased source or just tell me what restrictions exactly where removed? I just want to understand this issue more. Have campaign finance laws every applied to unions?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    We elect our representatives every two years, but we have no direct control over what they do in the intervening time.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    As I said, already, it can prevent people w/o the backing of moneyed interests from being on a ballot to begin with.
    Because they can't afford the filing fee? That doesn't make any sense.

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