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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Huh? No one who isn't a citizen gets to vote. I don't know what nonsense you're trying to hoist as a rebuttal this time.
    But non-citizens are still protected by the Bill of Rights.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It doesn't mention them AND it clearly says Congress shall make NO law abridging freedom of speech. That's it. Very simple. It protects speech, period. Doesn't matter where the speech comes from.
    You are talking absolutism.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You are talking absolutism.
    The First Amendment is doing that, not me.

    But no, my position doesn't require absolutism. There can be exceptions, just none based on the source of the speech.

    It's very clear that the First Amendment is meant to keep the government from deciding that some speech is good and some bad based on the content of the speech or the speaker - especially when it comes to political speech. That's a long-standing principle. It applies here.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The First Amendment is doing that, not me.

    But no, my position doesn't require absolutism. There can be exceptions, just none based on the source of the speech.

    It's very clear that the First Amendment is meant to keep the government from deciding that some speech is good and some bad based on the content of the speech or the speaker - especially when it comes to political speech. That's a long-standing principle. It applies here.
    Going around in circles again I see.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You are talking absolutism.
    Damn, makes me want to turn on some marching music.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Damn, makes me want to turn on some marching music.
    Good one!

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    The constant shuffling of legislation to combat the problem seems to create a lot of problems.

    Money has long "corrupted" the process, but most of the problem was on the Democratic Party side. The interesting part was, of course, when Obama was at the center of attention, campaign finance reform talk just went hush hush.

    I think the counter culture sensibilities of this nation have subsided to a large degree, and it has mostly come down to trying to improve the condition of your horse and hold back the other guy's horse.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The constant shuffling of legislation to combat the problem seems to create a lot of problems.

    Money has long "corrupted" the process, but most of the problem was on the Democratic Party side. The interesting part was, of course, when Obama was at the center of attention, campaign finance reform talk just went hush hush.

    I think the counter culture sensibilities of this nation have subsided to a large degree, and it has mostly come down to trying to improve the condition of your horse and hold back the other guy's horse.
    Well, Obama is from Chicago, you know.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Oops, I realized what I said didn't make too much sense. What I meant was that the Democratic Party was the one that spearheaded most of the reforms.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Oops, I realized what I said didn't make too much sense. What I meant was that the Democratic Party was the one that spearheaded most of the reforms.
    Ah so! This old fart forgives you.

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