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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    At least you've formally declared that corporations are not citizens. Now on to personhood.
    Irrelevant. The First Amendment protects speech, not persons, not corporations.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Squashing or drowning out the voice of the people isn't illegal anymore either. Doesn't make it right. Pretty simple concept.
    Not, simple - absurd. How is "the people's" voice squashed by the speech of others?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    And who is the Constitution written for, people or corporations?

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    I see nothing about the "Incorporated of America".
    How many times do we have to go over this one?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    EVERY corporation that has the desire to effect the law in their favor.

    It works like this. Don't vote yes on that bill or I will drown the next election in negative campaign ads against you while flooding your opponent with positive ads. I might even buy up all the ad space in advance so you can't even run an ad on TV or Radio.
    That could apply to anyone. It could apply to a political party, or a rich individual. You gonna limit their speech too?

    And it still isn't "buying" votes.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No one ever said they were. That's your strawman.
    Not a strawman, he asked how many votes they get and I noted that only citizens get a vote. Are citizens chairs? Are citizens cars? Are citizens people?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Not a strawman, he asked how many votes they get and I noted that only citizens get a vote. Are citizens chairs? Are citizens cars? Are citizens people?
    So . . .

    No one who doesn't get to vote is protected by the Bill of Rights?
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Not a strawman, he asked how many votes they get and I noted that only citizens get a vote. Are citizens chairs? Are citizens cars? Are citizens people?
    Nobody ever said citizens are chairs or cars or people. That's why it was a straw man.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You seem to be struggling with something very basic.

    The ruling is simple. Corporations, made of people, can run political ads any time they want. Just like MSNBC can run Olberman up to and during election day, or Fox can run Hannity. (Those are corporations, too.) It will also help to counterbalance the unlawful ACORNs of the world.

    This ruling leveled the playing field for all parties. Nothing more, nothing less. It did not change the rules for donating to political candidates.
    I'm glad you highlighted something I didn't say. Nor did I say Hannity or Olberman or MSNBC or Fox should have the right to spin "news".

    Pick you battles a little better.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    All of which can be countered with ads from the other side. You're giving too much credit to the power of these ads. (Kerry made it easy for the swift boaters by constantly mentioning his service, without going into the "other" part of his service.)

    How about..."you'd better not veto this bill or we'll tell the world about Monica Lewinsky"? That kind of bribery concerns me far more, and it's why character is so vital in our candidates.
    Even though I just gave an example of drowning out the other side... read much?

    Who are you quoting on the Lewinsky quote?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. This sounds just like all the hysteria when the "Assault Weapons" Ban was allowed to expire. "There's gonna be blood flowing in the streets!!!!!!!!"

    What happened then? Nothing.
    I hope you don't eat those words after some time has passed.

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