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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    How many votes does a corporation get in an election?
    At least you've formally declared that corporations are not citizens. Now on to personhood.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Really? Who is selling?

    Seriously, buying votes is illegal. If a voter freely chooses to vote for someone based on the ads he or she saw on TV, that's democracy. You have no right to tell voters they are too dumb to hear certain speech just because you don't like it or think it's too much. Pretty simple concept.
    Squashing or drowning out the voice of the people isn't illegal anymore either. Doesn't make it right. Pretty simple concept.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Wrong, as has been amply demonstrated.

    And irrelevant. The first amendment simply says there shall be no abridgement of speech. Nothing about the source of the speech.



    I'm a lefty. I like Supreme Court decisions that make sense. If it makes you feel better, this decision will apply to unions too.
    And who is the Constitution written for, people or corporations?

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    I see nothing about the "Incorporated of America".

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    At least you've formally declared that corporations are not citizens.
    No one ever said they were. That's your strawman.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So which corporations that you know of are buying votes? Be specific.
    EVERY corporation that has the desire to effect the law in their favor.

    It works like this. Don't vote yes on that bill or I will drown the next election in negative campaign ads against you while flooding your opponent with positive ads. I might even buy up all the ad space in advance so you can't even run an ad on TV or Radio.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    And who is the Constitution written for, people or corporations?

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    I see nothing about the "Incorporated of America".
    You seem to be struggling with something very basic.

    The ruling is simple. Corporations, made of people, can run political ads any time they want. Just like MSNBC can run Olberman up to and during election day, or Fox can run Hannity. (Those are corporations, too.) It will also help to counterbalance the unlawful ACORNs of the world.

    This ruling leveled the playing field for all parties. Nothing more, nothing less. It did not change the rules for donating to political candidates.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    EVERY corporation that has the desire to effect the law in their favor.

    It works like this. Don't vote yes on that bill or I will drown the next election in negative campaign ads against you while flooding your opponent with positive ads. I might even buy up all the ad space in advance so you can't even run an ad on TV or Radio.
    All of which can be countered with ads from the other side. You're giving too much credit to the power of these ads. (Kerry made it easy for the swift boaters by constantly mentioning his service, without going into the "other" part of his service.)

    How about..."you'd better not veto this bill or we'll tell the world about Monica Lewinsky"? That kind of bribery concerns me far more, and it's why character is so vital in our candidates.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    EVERY corporation that has the desire to effect the law in their favor.

    It works like this. Don't vote yes on that bill or I will drown the next election in negative campaign ads against you while flooding your opponent with positive ads. I might even buy up all the ad space in advance so you can't even run an ad on TV or Radio.
    Yeah. This sounds just like all the hysteria when the "Assault Weapons" Ban was allowed to expire. "There's gonna be blood flowing in the streets!!!!!!!!"

    What happened then? Nothing.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes, imagine Palin with a billion in her war chest, and from only one company. She could go ahead and buy CNN and we could watch her all day.
    dOh boy and then could I come over and watch your mind rot?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah. This sounds just like all the hysteria when the "Assault Weapons" Ban was allowed to expire. "There's gonna be blood flowing in the streets!!!!!!!!"

    What happened then? Nothing.
    I believe it is the right of every commie stompin redblooded american to own a chi-com ak-47.

    I am dead serious about this.

    It's our most important right.

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