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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Really? Who is selling?
    It's not a matter of who is selling. It's a matter of big business special interests flashing unimaginable large sums of money in front of a greedy politician who is willing to bend over and spread his/her cheeks to get it.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    And yet more.

    The nutjobs over at dailykos took a break riling up the Alito lynch-mob to actually look at the Citizens United decision for a few seconds and came up with this:

    Yeah, I know, I know, evil corporations are about to flood the political process with all sorts of outlandish expenditures certain to wreck our political discourse and install a thousand-year plutocracy. But before we all dive off the deep end, a quick before-and-after.

    Before Citizens United:

    * Corporations could make direct financial contributions to candidates in 27 states, but not in federal elections.
    * In 26 states, corporations could run direct advertising for or against the election of a state/local candidate.
    * In all 50 states and in federal elections, corporations could run "issue advertising" against candidates saying "Sen. [X] is wrong on this issue and is a bad person, so call him on the phone and say so," and as long as it didn't say "and you shouldn't vote for him" and wasn't too close to an election, it was legal.

    After Citizens United:

    * Corporations can make direct financial contributions to candidates in 27 states, but not in federal elections.
    * In all 50 states and in federal elections, corporations can run direct advertising for or against the election of a candidate.
    * In all 50 states and in federal elections, corporations can run "issue advertising" against candidates saying "Sen. [X] is wrong on this issue and is a bad person" as well as "so don't vote for him."

    Is this really that large of a difference?
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but some people here could take lessons from them.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And yet more.

    The nutjobs over at dailykos took a break riling up the Alito lynch-mob to actually look at the Citizens United decision for a few seconds and came up with this:



    I can't believe I'm saying this, but some people here could take lessons from them.
    I agree. I have already said that it won't make things a whole lot worse. The process is already terribly corrupted- so why is that a strong argument for putting more fuel on a fire already out of control?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Money can not prevent someone from going into the polling booth and flipping the switch for the candidate of his choice.
    As I said, already, it can prevent people w/o the backing of moneyed interests from being on a ballot to begin with.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    It's not a matter of who is selling. It's a matter of big business special interests flashing unimaginable large sums of money in front of a greedy politician who is willing to bend over and spread his/her cheeks to get it.
    Do you have anything rational to add or are you just going to fling mindless cliches?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    It's not a matter of who is selling. It's a matter of big business special interests flashing unimaginable large sums of money in front of a greedy politician who is willing to bend over and spread his/her cheeks to get it.
    And why would the big business interests do this? Is it because they are buying influence from a corrupt politician? Is there any way to prevent this, other than smaller and less intrusive government where the politicians have less influence to sell?
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    And why would the big business interests do this? Is it because they are buying influence from a corrupt politician? Is there any way to prevent this, other than smaller and less intrusive government where the politicians have less influence to sell?
    The real problem here is underlined.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The real problem here is underlined.
    True. But that's human nature in action, and IMO the only practical way to limit the damage is to give them less influence to sell. To me this means smaller less intrusive government and/or more transparency in government decisions. What do you think?
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    As I said, already, it can prevent people w/o the backing of moneyed interests from being on a ballot to begin with.
    The voters are choosing those "monied interest" candidates. They seem to like them. Why do you want to deny them their choice?

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The real problem here is underlined.
    How exactly?

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