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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Well I admit that over the last 2 days I've changed my mind. My original reading of this decision was that the flood gates are wide open now for more money to pour in. But I was wrong. The flood gates are already wide open. They've been wide open for years.

    The court just gave the green light for corporations, unions, etc to do whatever they want right up until election day. The situation is just the same ol crazy spending spree it has always been.
    Freedom is messy sometimes.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Good point. So now that we've agreed that they could do so before, why is there so much fear-mongering over this decision?
    The control freaks don't their victims to have freedom to speak out.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    (And maybe this will make some of you conservatives stop bashing the ACLU!)
    No.

    The ACLU is often, not always, on the wrong side of an issue.

    When it's on the wrong side, I will point it out.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    The ACLU is often, not always, on the wrong side of an issue.

    When it's on the wrong side, I will point it out.
    Sure, I'm not asking you not to point out when it's on the wrong side. Just notice when it's on the right side. Which is probably alot more often than you realize.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure, I'm not asking you not to point out when it's on the wrong side. Just notice when it's on the right side. Which is probably alot more often than you realize.

    Yep, they are cunning. Adopt a position you know will be a popular one on the opposition side, therefore claiming that you are middle of the road. We know better.


    Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along with three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of causes. The histories of these two individuals belie their claims of patriotism and respect for the Constitution.

    Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society. Fifteen years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:

    "I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself ... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."


    The ACLU's shocking legacy

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure, I'm not asking you not to point out when it's on the wrong side. Just notice when it's on the right side. Which is probably alot more often than you realize.
    No, I pay attention, and when it's on the right side, I say so.

    Overall, they do more harm than good, though.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, they are cunning. Adopt a position you know will be a popular one on the opposition side, therefore claiming that you are middle of the road. We know better.
    Oh for God's sake, cut it out. This is as lame as it gets.

    The ACLU doesn't give a damn what you think of them. They don't take positions just to make themselves look middle of the road, or whatever. Think whatever you want of them, just base it on reality, not the lies and distortions and incomplete picture you here about them on the interwebz.

    I'll bet you agree with them more often than you realize. If you don't, fine. I don't care and they don't care.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, I pay attention, and when it's on the right side, I say so.

    Overall, they do more harm than good, though.
    You're welcome to provide details. I'll bet you are mistaken about a few.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When ACORN has the right to get involved in politics and Exxon doesn't, then Exxon has been stripped of the same rights that ACORN has been given.

    Let everybody do it, or let nobody do it. There can't be an in between.
    if acorn has been provided rights is is not entitled to, the cure is not to magnify the wrong and extend it to others
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Um, yes it does. Read it more carefully. You do know who the group is, right?
    the group is not the citizens
    that is my point exactly
    not one citizen, including those who happen to be memebers of the group, have been deprived of their right of free speech
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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