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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    After Obama refused public financing, breaking his promise, in the 2008 election and then spent billions of dollars in online donations from foreigners, I think I know why he is so upset about people in corporations being given their free speech rights back.

    After all, what is Obama going to do when companies start running ads about the projected impact of cap and trade?
    WHY? ?? Corporations devised Cap & Trade

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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's interesting that you criticize Obama for spending campaign contributions from foreigners when the SCOTUS decision may allow influence of the U.S. government by corporations owned by foreign investors.
    Many support full disclosure of contributions as well so as voters can determine who is actually contributing and where the money is coming from. And I believe most Republicans criticized the Left's lack of interest....whatsoever. Campaign finance criticism went Left out the door, ACORN was ignored, corporate contributions ignored, a community organizer with a billion dollars is nominated...and no one cared where his funds came from, foreign or domestic.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

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    Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) Corporations can spend freely to support or oppose candidates for president and Congress, the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday in a landmark decision that allows massive sums to be spent to influence future elections.

    The 5-4 ruling split the high court along conservative and liberal lines. It was a defeat for the Obama administration and supporters of campaign finance laws who said that ending the limits would unleash a flood of corporate money into the political system.

    This is the greatest case of SCOTUS incompetence I have ever seen.

    Lets all give the cluess assholes who voted to alllow the corporate buyoff of the government a big hand. The justices responsible for voting "yes" on this issue (probably republicans) needs to be removed from office.

    This country just lost key liberty and no longer has free and fair elections.

    The SCOTUS ... what a bunch of ****ing imbeciles.
    I think it puts corporations on equal footing with unions.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it puts corporations on equal footing with unions.
    Exactly. It puts everyone on equal footing. I know a few industries like insurance, banking, financial, automobile, oil, energy, and defense that are going to pour monies in to throw Obama and these Congressional socialists from office.
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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it puts corporations on equal footing with unions.
    With all due respect, it's comforting to know that you are an egalitarian.

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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Many support full disclosure of contributions as well so as voters can determine who is actually contributing and where the money is coming from.
    I'm not so sure if I even like this though. What if I want to give $10 to a political candidate that my family hates? I'd want to keep it secret so that I don't have to hear about it from them. Is that such a bad thing?

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it puts corporations on equal footing with unions.
    The only issue is that it's easier for businesses to form than it is for unions to form in this country. I once read a news article about the difficulty for workers to form a union in a shop. I'll see if I can hunt it down. The reason why it's important is that if a union is more difficult to form than a business, then it will lead to a de facto overwhelming advantage to businesses and managers than to unions and workers.

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The only issue is that it's easier for businesses to form than it is for unions to form in this country. I once read a news article about the difficulty for workers to form a union in a shop. I'll see if I can hunt it down. The reason why it's important is that if a union is more difficult to form than a business, then it will lead to a de facto overwhelming advantage to businesses and managers than to unions and workers.
    There is no competition between unions. There is competition between businesses though. This is all that is necessary for workers to get their due pay.

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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I'm not so sure if I even like this though. What if I want to give $10 to a political candidate that my family hates? I'd want to keep it secret so that I don't have to hear about it from them. Is that such a bad thing?
    let's look at your example magnified
    say a mob boss wants to "contribute" $5 million to a judge's campaign, but wants to keep it a secret so the FBI does not learn of it. is that so bad

    just wanted to illustrate that sometimes the perfect really is an enemy of the good
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Supreme Court ruling a landmark for corporate political cash

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There is no competition between unions. There is competition between businesses though. This is all that is necessary for workers to get their due pay.
    No it isn't, and neither is that all that is necessary for workers to get their due rights in politics and law.

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