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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Section of McCain-Feingold

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it should not ... neither should be entitled to free speech, unless they possess the actual physical ability to speak

    but when was the last time you have seen either a corporation or union actually speak

    by its decision, the sc has given over citizens' rights to what could be multi-national organizations - and potentially corporate arms of foreign governments

    should we really trust the multi-national corporations and foreign, state-owned entities to not inordinately influence our politics, which is their right as has now been proscribed by the highest court

    we continue to have the best government money can buy
    I've seen SEIU strong arming for Obama many times over the past couple years.

    Remember when Obama said he was going to, "paint the country purple"??
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Section of McCain-Feingold

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Where did I say anything about your being "against freedom"? Is this why you think I'm looking through a "black-and-white lens"? Because it's the way you see things? Seems that way.
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    Corporations = evil; must have free speech suppressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    Oh yes... because I think there should be economic regulation, I am against freedom.
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    Well, yeah, which is why I'm calling it out.
    Don't piss on me and call it rain.

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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058266093



    I'd love to hear an explanation for how this decision will corrupt politics in a way that it's not already corrupted, as opposed to your ignorant pronunciations on issues you clearly don't understand.
    Quite a rebuttal...

    Why bother going point by point, just dismiss it ad hominem without explanation. Saves time on having to formulate thoughts of your own...

    Okay, RightNYC, explain why corporations must be treated identically to natural persons in the political sphere.

    And what do we gain by having more expensive and elaborate political campaigns?

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Section of McCain-Feingold

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Don't piss on me and call it rain.

    Corporations = evil; must have free speech suppressed.
    You lament the striking down of regulations on corporations on the grounds that corporations are necessarily a corruptive influence on politics.


    Well, yeah, which is why I'm calling it out.
    Dude. That was my response to your question about me being tired of black-and-white thought. I was "calling out" yours.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Section of McCain-Feingold

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
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    Corporations exist to rake in profits and their influence on government does not help to balance democracy. They are the business sector gone wild and they don't give a toss about individuals.
    You should get a tally sheet and see how much money corporations donate to various causes and rethink your philosophy here.
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    Re: Supreme Court Overturns Limits on Corporate Spending in Political Campaigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Naturally. The Reiche-wing loves to buy off votes.

    Now they can do it wholesale.
    Would you rather they do it out in the open or behind your back?
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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    Here's what I'd like to see:

    1. The Supreme Court says, like they did today, that money is speech and that therefore you cannot stop people from spending money on campaigns.

    2. The Supreme Court holds that corporations are NOT people, and therefore restrictions on campaign spending by corporations (and unions and PACs and other such groups) is constitutional.

    The idea that a corporation is considered a "person" under the 14th amendment is the root of the problem. We need to get rid of that notion. I mean, the conservatives talk about the intent of the Founding Fathers. I doubt any of them thought that a Court would later decide that businesses are "people."

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Section of McCain-Feingold

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You lament the striking down of regulations on corporations on the grounds that corporations are necessarily a corruptive influence on politics.
    There is no "necessarily" about it. Corporations ARE a corrupting influence on politics.

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    Re: SCOTUS Strikes Down Campaign Finance!

    What about in-kind contributions from media corporations?
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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