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    UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning - Times Online

    The UN’s top climate change body has issued an unprecedented apology over its flawed prediction that Himalayan glaciers were likely to disappear by 2035.

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said yesterday that the prediction in its landmark 2007 report was “poorly substantiated” and resulted from a lapse in standards. “In drafting the paragraph in question the clear and well-established standards of evidence, required by the IPCC procedures, were not applied properly,” the panel said. “The chair, vice-chair and co-chairs of the IPCC regret the poor application of IPCC procedures in this instance.”

    The stunning admission is certain to embolden critics of the panel, already under fire over a separate scandal involving hacked e-mails last year.
    This flimsy excuse to tax the people of the world into one-world oblivion is falling apart like a house of cards.

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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    So what are you saying, that the glaciers are no disappearing in the Himalayas or Andes mountains.. or even here in Europe and in the US?
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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So what are you saying, that the glaciers are no disappearing in the Himalayas or Andes mountains.. or even here in Europe and in the US?
    No.

    They recede, they come back, they recede, they come back.

    It's been going on for a very long time.

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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    The language of this piece says it all.

    "unprecedented apology"
    "flawed prediction"
    “poorly substantiated”
    "lapse in standards"
    "procedures, were not applied properly,”
    "poor application of IPCC procedures”
    "stunning admission"

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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So what are you saying, that the glaciers are no disappearing in the Himalayas or Andes mountains.. or even here in Europe and in the US?
    No, he's saying that the IPCC report that supposedly summarizes the views of 100's of scientists has just been shown to make a "very high probability" claim based on the views of ZERO scientists.

    NONE

    ZILTCH!!!

    It emerged last week that the prediction was based not on a consensus among climate change experts but on a media interview with a single Indian glaciologist in 1999. That scientist, Syed Hasnain, has now told The Times that he never made such a specific forecast in his interview with the New Scientist magazine.

    “I have not made any prediction on date as I am not an astrologer but I did say they were shrinking fast,” he said. “I have never written 2035 in any of my research papers or reports.”
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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    These people have been caught with their pants around their ankles and dick-out repeatedly.

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    Hottest Decade: Debunked by a 13-year old.
    Algore Propagandist film: Routinely debunked
    Propagandist emails exposed: Recently
    Himalayan Glacier Decline: Fraud.

    This a short list...

    BBC's Great Global Warming Swindle
    12 Parts; 6 min each.
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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The language of this piece says it all.

    "unprecedented apology"
    "flawed prediction"
    “poorly substantiated”
    "lapse in standards"
    "procedures, were not applied properly,”
    "poor application of IPCC procedures”
    "stunning admission"
    Al Gore has been very quiet in recent months, eh?

    Climategate, followed by the Copenhagen disaster, followed by this.......

    It's going the direction of healthcare, now that I think about it.

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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So what are you saying, that the glaciers are no disappearing in the Himalayas or Andes mountains.. or even here in Europe and in the US?
    What he's saying is that it's ****ing pathetic that the UN and science journals declared something quite important to be factually accurate based solely on a misconstrual of a single phone interview with a little-known scientist over 10 years ago.

    You don't see a problem with that?

    One can only hope that they're applying more rigorous scrutiny to the rest of their claims.
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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    What he's saying is that it's ****ing pathetic that the UN and science journals declared something quite important to be factually accurate based solely on a misconstrual of a single phone interview with a little-known scientist over 10 years ago.

    You don't see a problem with that?

    One can only hope that they're applying more rigorous scrutiny to the rest of their claims.
    OH sure I see the problem, but I also realize that it is just politics. The reality is that the glaciers are becoming smaller and disappearing and that will have a huge impact on billions of people. By focusing on this and other mistakes, you and your deniers are taking focus away from the very real climate changes we are seeing all over the place.
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    Re: UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    OH sure I see the problem, but I also realize that it is just politics. The reality is that the glaciers are becoming smaller and disappearing and that will have a huge impact on billions of people. By focusing on this and other mistakes, you and your deniers are taking focus away from the very real climate changes we are seeing all over the place.
    The climate has changed since the earth came into existence.

    At one time it was very tropical, now it isn't.
    It may go back that way, it may not.

    Let's not always pretend it's some disastrous event, especially if it has happened before.
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