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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually that isn't even close to being true. Have you even seen the health statistic. The US ranks far down the list yet pays substantially more than many other countries. Try again.
    You don't get choice in other countries.
    They don't get cutting edge technologies because they are costs.

    It would be cheaper if the government got the frick'in fingers out of it all.
    Cell phones are better and cost a few percent of what they did 25-years ago.
    Computers too.

    Just get government OUT OF THE WAY and let the free market take over.

    Even with their intrusions... it's still the best. Without question.

    It's why a mildly complicated birth in Alberta can't be serviced in Edmonton or Calgary (Pop. 2.5 million)... and they have to send the family south of the border to a town of 65,000.

    Quebec's Supreme Court ruled a waiting list does not constitute health care.

    Europe's systems are crumbling... imploding on the weight... fewer people paying in... like 2 to 1... when it was 17 to 1 when they started... and baby boomers adding weight in huge numbers.

    Socialized systems... co-ops always fail... especially government run co-op/ponzi schemes.

    So stop the blarney. Please.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually...most of us on the far-left weren't happy with the healthcare plan either.

    The spineless Democrats had compromised everything that was worthwhile in the bill. Personally, I'm hoping that it will fail as well.

    When it does, Americans will understand why yet again there is no healthcare reform in America and why insurance companies continue to rape the American public.

    If Americans truly want healthcare reform, which most of the polls indicate that they do, they will understand that they have to elect people that have a spine to do what they were elected to do.
    If the issue was as black and white as you mention it would have passed already. HC seems to be like congressmen. People hate all congressment except their own who get reelected 96% of the time. Most people who have HC like what they have.

    In addition most people get HC through their employers. Thus they do not see 80% of the cost of insurance.

    Then you had the backroom deals that just killed this thing with the public.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    oh, absolutely

    but THIS BILL was a pig

    obama really screwed up

    bad

    ask virginia, new jersey, massachusetts

    ask jim ritter in colorado

    ask dodd and dorgan

    ask john corzine

    ask copenhagen---remember the olympics?

    ask copenhagen---remember the climate disaccords?

    ask oslo---remember the prize?

    soon, harry reid will be able to tell you

    just 25 days ago he had the biggest win of his life---SIXTY!

    faster and faster over the cliff

    the leader absolutely must HATE obama

    reid is dead in the desert

    and lincoln, and specter, and bennett, and landrieu, nelson, bayh, delaware, illinois, dakota, florida...

    cuz we already got ONE, massachusetts

    and everyone who knows anything about american politics knows that if you can get the pilgrims, why, you can make it anywhere

    cuz US politics, you see, is real regional

    and massachusetts, well, she's massachusetts

    that's where kennedy's come from

    he just doesn't have the votes for this PIG of a bill for which he is 100% responsible

    no gain, only pain for this impercipient president

    sorry

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Either he realizes that it would be political suicide to do something so blatantly unethical, or he actually has principles.

    My vote says a socialist doesn't have principles.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If Americans truly want healthcare reform, which most of the polls indicate that they do, they will understand that they have to elect people that have a spine to do what they were elected to do.
    They're elected to obey the Constitution.

    That pretty much wipes out the Democrats.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Says who? People with cadillac plans?

    When attempting to 'talk the truth', best not to do so from your ass.
    Cost Is Foremost Healthcare Issue for Americans

    Overall, 80% are satisfied with the quality of medical care available to them, including 39% who are very satisfied
    Confidence in U.S. Health Care System Has Grown in Recent Months - Rasmussen Reports

    The new polling also shows that 80% of those with insurance rate their own coverage as good or excellent.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually that isn't even close to being true. Have you even seen the health statistic. The US ranks far down the list yet pays substantially more than many other countries. Try again.
    Lets see some stats that americans want Obama's trillion dollar socialist health plan? Why do you think that woman lost in Mass???
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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are those statitics based on?
    Length of life
    Illness rates
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Length of life
    Dependent on too many factors to blame "health care" only.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Illness rates
    That's called "get them off their fat asses and stop feeding them so much".

    That's called "don't watch football, play it."

    That's a problem for a prosperous country.

    It's a problem I'm glad we lead the world in.

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    Re: Obama tells Senate not to 'jam' through healthcare plan

    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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