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Palin and McCain will campaign again

PogueMoran said:
Aww again you can't refute anything. I know its hard to hear the truth about the girl you worship. Everything I've stated is accurate. You can't even get simple facts right like Wooten still being a state trooper, when Palin sold the plane, who actually bought the plane.

And he was good friends with her. She served as Director of Steven's 527. Now I'm sure there were others he could have got to do that. She turned Randy in for the same thing she was doing in Wasilla. Randy got a slap on the wrist and was still a GOP Chairman. Then she quit to go run for governor. Again it just shows a long string of her doing things to raise her own profile.


Scandals broke as a result of the FBIs excellent work. Its just funny she quit because of ethics complaints for someone "so pure".


Nice try but you still got quite a bit wrong. I know she can do no wrong by you but the fact is she's just as corrupt as any of the other Alaska politicians. She stacked her administration with cronies and had the "first dude" do things out of her office.


Yes corruption was present and showed in the Branchflower investigation. Nothing you have shown perpetuates the myth of her fighting corruption but rather her raising her profile.


Competitive bidding which she gave to transcanada on a pipeline that may never be built.


Yeah she sure did. She flip flopped on that bridge to nowhere. Went on a shopping spree on those clothes. Misappropriated money while she was governor charging the state for moving her whole family on state business, overcharging for staying at her own home.


Really? I specifically stated several examples instead of the cockamamy crap you pass off like:

"fought corruption" "fired wooten" stuff that you know didn't happen.



Come on you haven't even got anything right here. Once again the Branchflower report said that she broke the ethics act
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It really had to kill you when Scott Brown won that seat in Mass. huh..........
 
Navy Pride said:
It really had to kill you when Scott Brown won that seat in Mass. huh..........
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Not really I'm not from Mass. I knew he was going to win from the get go. Coakley was a horrible campaigner and Brown wanted it more
 
Charles Martel said:
You meant more people wanted Brown?
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No Brown wanted it more. Coakley took her constituents for granted. See when Teddy was alive even though he knew he was going to win he went out and still campaigned. After the primaries Coakley only held like 19 events while Brown held like 60+. He campaigned hard and fought for every vote while Coakley was complacent. She came off as cold, unfeeling, and out of touch with her voters. Her staff misspelled Massachusetts, she thought Shilling was a yankee and she just kept making flubs. There's no doubt if Coakley actually campaigned instead of expecting to win she would have won.
 
PogueMoran said:
Not really I'm not from Mass. I knew he was going to win from the get go. Coakley was a horrible campaigner and Brown wanted it more
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Yeah but your from the bastion of Liberalism the North East and to lose the Kennedy seat had to be devestating...
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah but your from the bastion of Liberalism the North East and to lose the Kennedy seat had to be devestating...
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Not really, Brown ran a good campaign. The media has painted him as a moderate which means that conservatives are still having a hard time in the north east. It just shows that you'll have to move to the center to win.
 
PogueMoran said:
Not really, Brown ran a good campaign. The media has painted him as a moderate which means that conservatives are still having a hard time in the north east. It just shows that you'll have to move to the center to win.
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He said he was a conservative............
 
Navy Pride said:
He said he was a conservative............
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That's funny doesn't seem how everyone is describing him. I thought conservatives believed in family values and not posing nude in magazines?
 
SE102 said:
Yeah Sarah Palin is a fine gal. Until she says something like obamacare's death-panels would have her parents and retarded child stand trial for their lives.

So other that what she says and thinks she's great.:rofl
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She never said any such thing. I love how you guys attempt to spin the most mundane statements into some huge scandal.

I wanna see the quote. Pogue's derangement has already been demonstrated by the fact that he didn't even finish reading the citations he posted, else he wouldn't have taken such a smug air about being so incredibly retarded in his assessments.

It's just funny to me the depths you guys will scrape trying to make something stick. :lol:
 
Navy Pride said:
It really had to kill you when Scott Brown won that seat in Mass. huh..........
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So much so that he never finished reading the Branchflower report which specifically stated she did absolutely nothing illegal in firing Monegan. In fact, it states, verbatim:

I find that, although Walt Monegan's refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.
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But you know, let's not let those pesky little things like facts get in the way of Pogue's little meltdown. :lol:
 
jallman said:
She never said any such thing. I love how you guys attempt to spin the most mundane statements into some huge scandal.

I wanna see the quote. Pogue's derangement has already been demonstrated by the fact that he didn't even finish reading the citations he posted, else he wouldn't have taken such a smug air about being so incredibly retarded in his assessments.

It's just funny to me the depths you guys will scrape trying to make something stick. :lol:
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Yeah I did read the citations. Kinda like how you keep saying the oil company owned the Jet Murkowsky bought with state funds and how Trooper Wooten was fired when he wasn't. Your blind faith devotion is having you make things up.

Her quote "The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

Paranoia runs deep... into your heart it will creep...
 
jallman said:
So much so that he never finished reading the Branchflower report which specifically stated she did absolutely nothing illegal in firing Monegan. In fact, it states, verbatim:



But you know, let's not let those pesky little things like facts get in the way of Pogue's little meltdown. :lol:
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Did you read the first section where it says findings and states specifically that she abused her power under the ethics act?
 
jallman said:
So much so that he never finished reading the Branchflower report which specifically stated she did absolutely nothing illegal in firing Monegan. In fact, it states, verbatim:



But you know, let's not let those pesky little things like facts get in the way of Pogue's little meltdown. :lol:
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That's the second finding the first finding states she abused her power under the ethics act in regards to trying to get Mike Wooten fired.

Since you claimed to have read the report. What does finding one state?

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/10/16/Branchflowerreport.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

I'll give you a hint its on page 8
 
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PogueMoran said:
Yeah I did read the citations. Kinda like how you keep saying the oil company owned the Jet Murkowsky bought with state funds and how Trooper Wooten was fired when he wasn't. Your blind faith devotion is having you make things up.

Her quote "The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

Paranoia runs deep... into your heart it will creep...
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There was no statement of people standing on trial for their lives.

I never claimed the oil company owned Murkowski's jet. I claimed they contributed to it's purchase. You've never proven otherwise.

At present, I am not sure if he was officially fired or not. I am sure it has little to do with Palin being found guilty of any illegal activity in calling for his firing. So yeah, if you need to win that extraneous point, you can have it.

The rest of your crap was just the same drivel you regurgitated the first time that proved you haven't got more than a passing knowledge of the issues.

Anything else or am I to just expect you to rant away again? Hmmm? Anything?:lol:
 
PogueMoran said:
That's the second finding the first finding states she abused her power under the ethics act in regards to trying to get Mike Wooten fired.

Since you claimed to have read the report. What does finding one state?

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/10/16/Branchflowerreport.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

I'll give you a hint its on page 8
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And I'll give you a hint...the conclusion of the report was that she was well within her legal authority to fire Wooten. That's really all that matters.

So I will just put you down as a "no" on the question concerning whether or not you can find any report stating that she was in any kind of legal violations.:lol:
 
jallman said:
There was no statement of people standing on trial for their lives.

I never claimed the oil company owned Murkowski's jet. I claimed they contributed to it's purchase. You've never proven otherwise.

At present, I am not sure if he was officially fired or not. I am sure it has little to do with Palin being found guilty of any illegal activity in calling for his firing. So yeah, if you need to win that extraneous point, you can have it.

The rest of your crap was just the same drivel you regurgitated the first time that proved you haven't got more than a passing knowledge of the issues.

Anything else or am I to just expect you to rant away again? Hmmm? Anything?:lol:
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You're not a very good liar are you? You never claimed that the oil company owned the jet. Really?

jallman said:
1) Told the oil companies to shove it when she sold off their jet gifted to the previous governor.
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So in order to gift something that would imply it was the oil company's jet to give that they bought it for him. Neither of those statements were true nor was the original. The oil company didn't gift the plane. It was never theirs. Contrary to whatever you decided to make up in your head. They didn't contribute to the purchase he used State funds to buy it. You've never proven they ever had any part in it.

So because you have no proof he was ever fired even though I've shown you he was still working you must claim he's fired then? So you just think things without researching them. Thanks for verifying that Jall.

This just further lends credence to the notion that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Palin. You're so apt to believe the myth than to do the research.

If you bothered to read the Branchflower report the finding that stated she violated the ethics act had to do with her trying to get Mike Wooten fired. It was precisely about that.

And then you finish with more drivel. Instead of refuting anything and admitting several of the things you stated were wrong you just try to dance around it. Thanks for conceding the point again Jall.
 
jallman said:
And I'll give you a hint...the conclusion of the report was that she was well within her legal authority to fire Wooten. That's really all that matters.

So I will just put you down as a "no" on the question concerning whether or not you can find any report stating that she was in any kind of legal violations.:lol:
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No you're confusing Walt Monegan with Wooten. The report said she was well within her power to fire Monegan who was an administrator but she went out of the legal authority to try to influence the firing of a state trooper. The report itself stated she violated the ethics act. Try reading the findings and the conclusion instead of mixing up the players involved.

Its all right there in finding one.

So you can't ignore it this time

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Then read from the explanation of findings on page 48. Here is the conclusion on page 65 for finding one.
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The report is pretty specific in that she violated the ethics act by trying to get Wooten fired. Its pretty clear no matter how much you want to deny it.
 
danarhea said:
I think Palin is going to hurt McCain's chances, as she did during his presidential run against Obama. Right now there are 2 Republicans ready to challenge him in a primary, Chris Simcox, and Jim Deakin, with JD Hayworth also considering a run. Whoever wins will face a tough battle against Napolitano, if she decides to leave Obama's cabinet and run for the Democrats. McCain doesn't need an idiot on his side this time. He should deep six Palin as fast as he can. Without her, he can hold the seat, but with her, he stands a better than even chance of losing, if not in the primary, then in the election itself.
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Might I respectfully suggest you look at Palin's record while she was Governor of Alaska instead of as is usual for you, basing your opinions on the opinion of the Media.
 
PogueMoran said:
No you're confusing Walt Monegan with Wooten.
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This is the only thing you got correct in all that. I was speaking of Monegan and I misspoke Wooten.

As for the rest, the report still stated she did nothing illegal. You're just gonna have to learn to live with that.
 
PogueMoran said:
Thanks for conceding the point again Jall.
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I conceded nothing. I merely pointed out how you obsessively clung to a word and tried to build the whole case around it. The oil companies were the driving force behind Murkowski's jet. You're just going to have to learn to live with that, also.
 
PogueMoran said:
That's funny doesn't seem how everyone is describing him. I thought conservatives believed in family values and not posing nude in magazines?
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First he was not nude.........second there are two kinds of conservativers, fiscal and social......
 
Navy Pride said:
First he was not nude.........second there are two kinds of conservativers, fiscal and social......
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What does a band have to do with this thread? :mrgreen:

And IMO, there are many more types of conservatives than just fiscal and social. But those two are the main, generalized groupings.
 
The Mark said:
What does a band have to do with this thread? :mrgreen:

And IMO, there are many more types of conservatives than just fiscal and social. But those two are the main, generalized groupings.
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Yes, I totally agree, there are many types of conservatives.
 
The Mark said:
What does a band have to do with this thread? :mrgreen:

And IMO, there are many more types of conservatives than just fiscal and social. But those two are the main, generalized groupings.
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Listen my left wing friend.......I responded to another post......I would be interested in knowing what other kinds of Conservatives there are though....Please don't tell me a moderate or a liberal conservative..........I call them RINOS......Thanks........
 
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