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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Aww, he ****ed up!

    In reality though, there's legitimate concern for appointing the guy. If he violated the restrictions on the government and then lied to Congress (isn't that typically under oath...as in lying to them is perjury?), he shouldn't be in charge of an organization which is iffy at best when adhering to the rights and liberties of the individual.
    As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if he was under oath, or not. A lie is a lie is a lie.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if he was under oath, or not. A lie is a lie is a lie.
    But perjury is illegal. You can't go after people legally for a lie, and in that context you'd be hard pressed to find any person who hasn't told a lie about something at some point. But being so bold as to commit perjury is another ballgame.
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He ran a background check on his ex-wife's b/f, without a warrant, or probable cause.

    You ain't down with that, are you?
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He ran a background check on his ex-wife's b/f, without a warrant, or probable cause.

    You ain't down with that, are you?
    So it's ok for the FBI to break the law, unless of course they are a nominee of a democrat. Hypocrisy noted.

    He screwed up 20 years ago, he was punished, and that had jack to do with why his nomination was held up. This is just political stupidity at it's finest.
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Southers was with the FBI when he did that.
    It is most unkind of you to inject cruel facts into Ikari's diatribe. For shame!
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Oh, well we don't require them to have warrants these days. The FBI gets to do whatever they want so long as they label it as "terrorism" first.
    Untrue of course. If they could do anything they liked, the membership of this forum would be much smaller.
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Untrue of course. If they could do anything they liked, the membership of this forum would be much smaller.
    The NSA probably has search algorithms to do it for them. But these days the FBI pretty much can do as they like. Just say "terrorism" and everything's cool.
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So it's ok for the FBI to break the law, unless of course they are a nominee of a democrat. Hypocrisy noted.


    I'm sorry. Where did I say that it's ok for the FBI to break the law? Thanks in advance for getting back to me on that.

    He screwed up 20 years ago, he was punished, and that had jack to do with why his nomination was held up. This is just political stupidity at it's finest.
    You're ok with a person who conducted an illegal investigation, then lied to Congress about it, running the TSA? Hypocrisy definitely noted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm sorry. Where did I say that it's ok for the FBI to break the law? Thanks in advance for getting back to me on that.
    Right here:

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    If someone wants to make copies of my phone calls, I don't feel that my rights have been violated.

    The FBI has information where I made a call at H-hour on D-day. So what?
    You argued right there that the FBI acting illegally was not violating your rights.

    You're ok with a person who conducted an illegal investigation, then lied to Congress about it, running the TSA? Hypocrisy definitely noted.
    No, that is not what I said. I said he was punished for it, as was proper. I also stated that the reason his nomination was held up had nothing to do with this. Now, do you care to actually talk about what I said, or are you going to make up more crap that I did not say to argue against?
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    Re: TSA nominee withdraws amid 'political agenda'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post



    You argued right there that the FBI acting illegally was not violating your rights.
    No, what I argued is that I didn't think it was that big a deal. Nowhere did I say it wasn't illegal and damn sure never said it was ok for the FBI to break the law.

    Nice try, though. Good luck with this night classes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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