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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In ethical violation of his job. Yes, it's improper action if the allegations are true. This is why you can't talk to hyperpartisans. If Ensign was a Democrat dollars to donuts says you'd be in here talking about the corrupt Democrat party and how they'd try to get him off of the charges. If he violated the ethics of office, there must be consequences. We can't allow politicians to run around unrestrained. It's an essential part of having a constrained government. He didn't just write a letter of recommendation to some company or anything like that. It was a lobbying position and access to federal offices which is against ethics rules.

    Investigate and see if there really was a violation. If so, then the Senator must face consequences.
    When you consider the crap that the Dems have overlooked, then this deal is nothing but a political witch hunt.

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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When you consider the crap that the Dems have overlooked, then this deal is nothing but a political witch hunt.

    Still waiting, Pete. Thanks!
    These things can be political witch hunts, it's important to apply these standards to everyone. But the government has acted improperly for some time now, many things on both sides have been overlooked. It's time that we stop overlooking these things. There must be accountability in the system, it's essential to controlling the government.
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    These things can be political witch hunts, it's important to apply these standards to everyone. But the government has acted improperly for some time now, many things on both sides have been overlooked. It's time that we stop overlooking these things. There must be accountability in the system, it's essential to controlling the government.
    This is the same DoJ that dropped charges against two dudes who were standing in front of a polling house with axe handles, intimidating voters.

    This is nothing more than a political witch hunt.

    We'er going to start seeing alot of this, since the Liberal agenda is coming unwound like a cheap clock.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How is it stupid? It sounds like there could actually be some ethics violations here. In the very least, it needs to be investigated to see if there really was any wrong doing. I somehow think that if the R was a D, we'd be seeing more support from the right side and not partisan groupthink going after the investigation itself. Is everyone held to standards? No, obviously the elite of both parties are well protected. But they shouldn't be. We need accountability in government and that means that we really do need to go after people who violate the law or ethics of their job. It's essential to control them.
    Nobody is objecting to the Senate Ethics Committee's investigation of whether or not Ensign broke Senate Ethics rules, but why exactly is the FBI involved? What federal law is he suspected of breaking? The gift reporting requirement?
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    How many guys give career assistance to the husbands of their mistresses? That's some Indecent Proposal **** right there.
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Nobody is objecting to the Senate Ethics Committee's investigation of whether or not Ensign broke Senate Ethics rules, but why exactly is the FBI involved? What federal law is he suspected of breaking? The gift reporting requirement?
    No, apparently the rules of congress which set forth ethics laws. That's what he's alleged to have violated. We should probably enforce those.

    Yes, somehow the crap against the black panthers was dismissed. It shouldn't have been. Voter intimidation is a grave crime and MUST be treated as such. We need to demand that we don't just go after one guy for ethics violation, but we go after everyone who has acted improperly or broken laws while in office. It is essential to keeping the Republic.
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So when will he resign?
    What are your thoughts on the Black Panther scandal brewing? You know... the one where some thugs were let off from prosecution by Obama?
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

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    What are your thoughts on the Black Panther scandal brewing? You know... the one where some thugs were let off from prosecution by Obama?
    The AG should be held responsible since investigating these things and bringing charges against people is his responsibility. And this is a grave miscarriage of justice to not in the very least have an investigation to see if charges can be brought. I'd say it's pretty damned clear that they violated serious laws and interfered with voting and they need to be held accountable.
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, apparently the rules of congress which set forth ethics laws. That's what he's alleged to have violated. We should probably enforce those.

    Yes, somehow the crap against the black panthers was dismissed. It shouldn't have been. Voter intimidation is a grave crime and MUST be treated as such. We need to demand that we don't just go after one guy for ethics violation, but we go after everyone who has acted improperly or broken laws while in office. It is essential to keeping the Republic.
    There are two different things - ethics rules and ethics laws. Ethics rules are set by Congress and are only enforced by Congress. Ethics laws are set by Congress and are enforced by the FBI.

    So far, everything I've seen indicated that Ensign allegedly broke several ethics rules. I haven't seen anything suggesting that he broke any ethics law, which is why I'm not sure what the FBI is looking into. The only law that I've even seen raised as something he may have broken is a tax law - the gift reporting requirement, which is a bit strange.
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    Re: Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    How many guys give career assistance to the husbands of their mistresses? That's some Indecent Proposal **** right there.
    Sounds to me like everybody was a good sport about the whole thing...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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