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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Chart that does not adjust for inflation is extremely intellectually dishonest....

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Your math is off. Obama inherited an unemployment rate of 8%.

    Also the deficit is only the most in history if you don't count inflation. If you do, then you see that Obama is not even close.
    First of all, Scott there is no inflation so the chart you posted is off by that factor. Second the first three months of fiscal year 2010 the deficit is in line to exceed the record deficit in 2009 and doesn't even count any potential cap and trade or healthcare costs.

    Barack Obama has done nothing to focus on the deficit nor has he done anything to stimulate the economy. His 787 billion stimulus plan did nothing but stimulate money to the pet constituents of the Democratic Party.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Chart that does not adjust for inflation is extremely intellectually dishonest....
    Chart that assumes taxes collected for future liabilities contributes to a "surplus" is beyond dishonest.

    For the last two and half decades the United States government has been collecting Socialist Security funds purportedly for future disbursal, and it has also been spending those monies immediately. Subtracts the 15.4% FICA taxes collected and see what happens to the deficit.

    Our Dear Rapist President NEVER had anything resembling a budget surplus. Ever.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Well, Scott, you found a graph.

    Very impressive.

    Since this graph is dishonest, what was your intention? You're allowed to claim ignorance, I suppose.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Well, Scott, you found a graph.

    Very impressive.

    Since this graph is dishonest, what was your intention? You're allowed to claim ignorance, I suppose.
    Note the source of the numbers, CBO. You guys seem to go to them on estimates for the cost of government programs all the time.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Note the source of the numbers, CBO. You guys seem to go to them on estimates for the cost of government programs all the time.
    Did you notice the last year of that graph and that it was a projected deficit and shows no Obama numbers?

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did you notice the last year of that graph and that it was a projected deficit and shows no Obama numbers?
    Notice the date of the last update? March 6th, 2008.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    How about AFTER he cleans up the mess handed to him? I'm no democrat but sheesh, republicans screw up the country and then democrats are elected to fix it. Granted they don't do a very good job but at least they don't do the damage republicans do.

    We should have elected Ron Paul, period.

    Hello?

    It was the Democrat FDR that implemented the FHA.

    It was the Democrat Carter the implemented the CRA

    It was the Democrat Clinton who implemented CRA II

    it was the Democrats in the House and Senate who stonewalled attempts to fix Fannie-Mae and Freddie-Mac.

    So, take off your partisan blinders and find out who the real enemies of the Republic are.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Note the source of the numbers, CBO. You guys seem to go to them on estimates for the cost of government programs all the time.
    Wow.

    The CBO can't figure out that taxes collected for future unbudgeted expenditures should't be added towards current "surplus/deficit" calculations.

    Amazing!

    Who'd have thought that a bunch of accountants working for politicians would be so dishonest as to hide that?

    Hmmm?

    Hey! I've can sell you some options on prime farm real estate in a country called Atlantis. You interested?

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Notice the date of the last update? March 6th, 2008.
    Not sure then your point, didn't you post this

    Also the deficit is only the most in history if you don't count inflation. If you do, then you see that Obama is not even close.
    Obama took office in January 2009 so there are no numbers in the chart you posted for Obama. The fiscal year 2009 was over 1.4 trillion dollars and was between Bush and Obama. Fiscal year 2010 is ALL Obama and is on path to blow the 2009 record out of the record books. The first three months are over 400 billion dollars.

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