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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Does your cousin have a cell phone? Cable service? iPod? Does he ever go out on the weekends and piss away half his paycheck on partying?
    Nope, he's a single father (black man go figure eh?) with 2 small children. His wife died of ovarian cancer in march 2009, she was undiagnosed until January 2009. No cell phone, basic cable, old car, renting.

    I bet you've seen people on food stamps buying steaks, people on welfare driving mercedes and union workers taking 4 hour breaks.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    That was thoughtful of him to spread the germs around his work. Who is this f*cknut? I hope I don't end up in an elevator with him.
    I wish you would and I wish he knew it.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I bet you've seen people on food stamps buying steaks, people on welfare driving mercedes and union workers taking 4 hour breaks.
    I certainly have.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    No, I'm not relying on any assumption, but merely pointing out the flaws in your argument and the attendant problems with making policy by anecdote.
    No you're making an assumption that things wouldn't have been different had he had insurance.

    So he refused to take off a day from work to stay at home and rest, but your theory is that he would have taken two days off from work to go see the doctor?
    No, he couldn't afford to take time off. So he worked, undiagnosed but ill, until he was unable to continue working.

    And you've just admitted that even if he had had health insurance, he still wouldn't have stayed home and rested, which is probably what caused him to get pneumonia in the first place.
    If he had health insurance his doctor could have diagnosed the flu and not just a seasonal cold, prescribed medication, given him a note for his employer so he wouldn't lose his position, told him to get bed rest. He probably wouldn't have gotten pneumonia.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I wish you would and I wish he knew it.
    And you say conservatives are not compassionate. You and your cousin Billy Bob sound like real swell fellers ... just the kind of people I'd love to foot the bill for your medical costs.


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    I certainly have.
    Me as well.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    No you're making an assumption that things wouldn't have been different had he had insurance.


    No, he couldn't afford to take time off. So he worked, undiagnosed but ill, until he was unable to continue working.


    If he had health insurance his doctor could have diagnosed the flu and not just a seasonal cold, prescribed medication, given him a note for his employer so he wouldn't lose his position, told him to get bed rest. He probably wouldn't have gotten pneumonia.
    All I am hearing is that you are blaming his needing to take several days and a doctor visit from work on his refusal to do the intelligent thing and rest for a day or two when he initially got sick.

    That's because it sounds like he's either a stubborn man with a superhero complex or he's an idiot. I will not make any more conjecture as to which.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Nope, he's a single father (black man go figure eh?) with 2 small children. His wife died of ovarian cancer in march 2009, she was undiagnosed until January 2009. No cell phone, basic cable, old car, renting.

    I bet you've seen people on food stamps buying steaks, people on welfare driving mercedes and union workers taking 4 hour breaks.
    What does his being black have to do with anything? Are you one of those liberals who view people according to color?

    I'm sorry about your cousin's wife. That's a devastating loss. After losing the mother of children to an illness with a late diagnosis, one would think the responsible thing for the father of 2 small children to do is to get his ass to the dr at the first sign of illness. Does Billy Bob (wait, you said he was black), does Tyrone know about after hours urgent care facilities? He could have gone in after work.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Good news. Even though I describe myself as a concervative, in the US I would probably be described as a right-wing democrat.

    However, without the public option the health care bill is worthless. It is merly an extension of costs, which will increase the allready too big public deficits. Under Bush defecits have gone from 73% to 90% of GDP. Under the financial crisis the federal deficit has increased from 90% to 120% in just two years. Deficits needs to go down and the health care bill will bring in huge extra costs. If taxes increase, US will start to have the same tax level as many European countries, and still will have a broken system.

    There are two ways to go. Public option and start becoming more like Europe in the health sector, or market reforms. Public option has failed and the bill passed is only going to increase costs and delay a solution. I hope Obama fails, and that we get a good republican president who is not populist. Who are going to do the neccesary reforms for removing all the regulations that keep health care costs up, and bring competition back in health care.

    Source: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/...olor=c&local=s
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    No you're making an assumption that things wouldn't have been different had he had insurance.


    No, he couldn't afford to take time off. So he worked, undiagnosed but ill, until he was unable to continue working.


    If he had health insurance his doctor could have diagnosed the flu and not just a seasonal cold, prescribed medication, given him a note for his employer so he wouldn't lose his position, told him to get bed rest. He probably wouldn't have gotten pneumonia.
    Sounds to me like he shoulda just spent 60 bucks on a doctor visit.

    Sounds like just plain 'ole hard headedness, to me. I've seen it before, I know exactly what it looks like.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds to me like he shoulda just spent 60 bucks on a doctor visit.

    Sounds like just plain 'ole hard headedness, to me. I've seen it before, I know exactly what it looks like.
    Me, too. It usually looks like that guy staring back at me in the mirror.

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