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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So I guess every exact detail is necessary for you to understand a point.

    OK, my cousin didn't have insurance and got sick. He tried to ride it out, taking over the counter medicine. He got sicker and sicker until his wife took him to the emergency room. He was diagnosed with pneumonia and was admitted to the hospital where he spent X number of days (only a couple if I remember correctly) and was then sent home to continue to recover. His bill was approx. 10k.

    He has been paying off his bill for 2 years. He was out of work nearly 2 months. Who paid for his lack of productivity? We all did.

    Is there some evidence that using emergency rooms is cheaper than preventative care?
    Scott Brown ran in MA on being the 41st vote against Obamacare and won in the most liberal state in America. You can spin that any way you want but I don't believe that the people of MA believe it is the United States Taxpayer responsibility to pay for your insurance. Insurance companies are controlled by the states and if you want to force the taxpayers of your state to fund your healthcare, go for it. The people of TX shouldn't be paying healthcare for the people of NY.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I always thought "greedy" was typically directed at people who take more than they need.
    Who are you to decide what someone else "needs"?

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    Who are you to decide what someone else "needs"?
    Who decides? I didn't. Not even a midget strawman but keep working on it.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Who decides? I didn't. Not even a midget strawman but keep working on it.

    Do you have savings Jingo? If so why? Isn't that greed?



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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I always thought "greedy" was typically directed at people who take more than they need.
    Actually, you're half correct. Greed can be defined as a desire or want for more than one needs, OR, more than one deserves.

    So yes, it could be stated that someone who continually works his ass off due to a desire to have more money than is actually needed so he can buy more expensive things and doesn't want that taken away is greedy.

    However

    If you're going to call that person greedy you also must call the person whose making only $24,000 a year and doesn't have health care, but eats out at resturants twice a week, smokes 2 packs a week, routinely goes to happy hour, and has cable TV greedy for wanting to take money from someone else to pay for his health care that he doesn't "deserve" based off what he does.

    If health care is such a necessity, then people should be spending money on it instead of luxuries like going out to a resturant routinely, cable TV, cigerettes or alcohol, video games, or anything of that sort. If its a NECESSITY, then it should be coming before luxuries.

    I have sympathy for people that honest to goodness skimp and have almost no luxuries and are actively trying their best to get and hold a job and still can't afford something like shelter, health care, or food. I have significantly less symapthy for people who want to eat their cake and have it too, and wants someone else to pay for that cake.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you have savings Jingo? If so why? Isn't that greed?



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    Yes. I have clothing which I really don't need either because I could move to a place that had a more consistently mild climate. was your question intended to be that ridiculous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually, you're half correct. Greed can be defined as a desire or want for more than one needs, OR, more than one deserves.

    So yes, it could be stated that someone who continually works his ass off due to a desire to have more money than is actually needed so he can buy more expensive things and doesn't want that taken away is greedy.

    However

    If you're going to call that person greedy you also must call the person whose making only $24,000 a year and doesn't have health care, but eats out at resturants twice a week, smokes 2 packs a week, routinely goes to happy hour, and has cable TV greedy for wanting to take money from someone else to pay for his health care that he doesn't "deserve" based off what he does.

    If health care is such a necessity, then people should be spending money on it instead of luxuries like going out to a resturant routinely, cable TV, cigerettes or alcohol, video games, or anything of that sort. If its a NECESSITY, then it should be coming before luxuries.

    I have sympathy for people that honest to goodness skimp and have almost no luxuries and are actively trying their best to get and hold a job and still can't afford something like shelter, health care, or food. I have significantly less symapthy for people who want to eat their cake and have it too, and wants someone else to pay for that cake.
    I don't disagree with anything you said there.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    See, here's the thing though.

    Contrary to what is the common, feel good belief, greed isn't bad.

    Being overly greedy can be bad. Greed to an exclusion is bad. However, Greed in part is what pushes our economy and tends to make things better for many people.

    Do you think the people creating microchips wanted to create smaller microchips simply because it'd be really really cool? No, smaller microchips made your technology more advanced which got you more money which you could use to spend on cooler stuff. It also opened up a whole new world of technology for everyone.

    Any person that works extra hours at work to get some extra money to go on a trip to the beach for a week is exhibiting "greed" in its purest definition because they don't NEED a trip, it is purely a luxury and nothing else. Anyone that saved up for that big wide screen LCD TV and that HD cable package they got is "greedy" by the pure definition of it. Anyone who bought that top end graphics card to play WOW on in stunning graphics even though you could run it on 4 year old technology is "greedy".

    But they're also...well...kind of normal.

    There is no a person on this forum that has never done a greedy thing, by its definition, in their entire life. It just isn't going to happen and anyone that says theyve never done anything greedy is lying in my mind.

    Why do I say that?

    Cause I almost garauntee you they're not posting that comment from some library but from their own home where they've spent extra money to get internet in their house which is a luxury, not a necessity.

    What we have though is people feeling like its okay to call people greedy ONLY when someone is able to have MORE luxuries than they do.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    Cause I almost garauntee you they're not posting that comment from some library but from their own home where they've spent extra money to get internet in their house which is a luxury, not a necessity.

    What we have though is people feeling like its okay to call people greedy ONLY when someone is able to have MORE luxuries than they do.
    Actually Im sitting in a bar having a beer trading stocks as I type

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