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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Surely you're being obtuse. NO ONE could be that ignorant.

    Just in case however, I'll explain.

    Let's say you get the flu and you go to your GP he checks you out and gives you recommendations or a flu shot or some other medicine to help you recover.

    Let's say you don't have insurance so you don't go to a GP, instead you lay in bed taking Nyquil and your flu gets worse and worse. Finally your friend or spouse seees how sick you've become and they call an ambulance because you can't even get out of bed. If you're lucky someone can help you to the car to take you to the emergency room so you avoid the $900 abulance ride. Then in the emergency room you find out you now have pneumonia.

    Which do you think would be better for you AND society. Let's not forget that all that time you laid in bed getting sicker and sicker, you were not working and therefore not productive. Now you have to spend more time being unproductive trying to recover from pneumonia. Who is going to pick up the medical bills which total over 10k?

    This actually happened to my cousin.
    If you're going to call someone else ignorant, you should probably understand the basics of the topic you discuss.

    The flu shot doesn't cure the flu - it's a vaccine that is only partially effective and only if you get it before infection.

    Furthermore, if you went to your GP with the flu, do you know what he would recommend 99 to 100% of the time? Bed rest, fluids, and maybe some acetaminophen to bring down a fever. Know what contains acetaminophen? Nyquil.

    The fact that your cousin got a very bad case of the flu doesn't mean anything about whether it would have turned out differently had he gone to a doctor when he first got the symptoms.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Surely you're being obtuse. NO ONE could be that ignorant.

    Just in case however, I'll explain.

    Let's say you get the flu and you go to your GP he checks you out and gives you recommendations or a flu shot or some other medicine to help you recover.

    Let's say you don't have insurance so you don't go to a GP, instead you lay in bed taking Nyquil and your flu gets worse and worse. Finally your friend or spouse seees how sick you've become and they call an ambulance because you can't even get out of bed. If you're lucky someone can help you to the car to take you to the emergency room so you avoid the $900 abulance ride. Then in the emergency room you find out you now have pneumonia.

    Which do you think would be better for you AND society. Let's not forget that all that time you laid in bed getting sicker and sicker, you were not working and therefore not productive. Now you have to spend more time being unproductive trying to recover from pneumonia. Who is going to pick up the medical bills which total over 10k?

    This actually happened to my cousin.
    Maybe a person that thinks they have the flu can spend 50 bucks at the walk in clinic to get fixed up? In Louisiana, they just go to the chairty hospital here at ULL and don't pay anything.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    teabaggers amuse me with their lack of empathy. People used to be ashamed to espouse such selfishness and greed. *sigh* those people won and look at the mess our country is in.
    And people use to be ashamed of acting like juvenile 10 year olds on a grade school playground, and yet people keep using "teabagger" to describe people at the tea PARTY protests that god forbid disagree with you politically.

    And funny, I always found it rather greedy as well to believe that somehow you are entitled to be given things for free using someone elses money. Funny how "Greedy" is only thrown around by people when it suits them and amazingly ignored when their own side is greedy as well.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If you're going to call someone else ignorant, you should probably understand the basics of the topic you discuss.

    The flu shot doesn't cure the flu - it's a vaccine that is only partially effective and only if you get it before infection.

    Furthermore, if you went to your GP with the flu, do you know what he would recommend 99 to 100% of the time? Bed rest, fluids, and maybe some acetaminophen to bring down a fever. Know what contains acetaminophen? Nyquil.

    The fact that your cousin got a very bad case of the flu doesn't mean anything about whether it would have turned out differently had he gone to a doctor when he first got the symptoms.
    So, are you suggesting that all the health insurance in the world may not have made a difference?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And people use to be ashamed of acting like juvenile 10 year olds on a grade school playground, and yet people keep using "teabagger" to describe people at the tea PARTY protests that god forbid disagree with you politically.

    And funny, I always found it rather greedy as well to believe that somehow you are entitled to be given things for free using someone elses money. Funny how "Greedy" is only thrown around by people when it suits them and amazingly ignored when their own side is greedy as well.
    "Greedy", is typically directed at people who go out and make money; never at people who sit on their ass and look in the mailbox for their paycheck on the first of every month.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, are you suggesting that all the health insurance in the world may not have made a difference?
    Everyone dies.

    Everyone with insurance dies.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "Greedy", is typically directed at people who go out and make money; never at people who sit on their ass and look in the mailbox for their paycheck on the first of every month.
    That's because the people that typically use the word greedy don't know what it means.

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Reagan always had support on the right. The nomination battle was against Bush, for Pete's sake. Bush was one of those limp-dicked moderates that still plague the nation.
    No, Reagan had huge difficulties with the right. I'm going off of my memory here and that ain't perfect, but I do remember Reagan being denounced by many on the right for not being a "serious" candidate. Whatever that means.

    Once he won the nomination though people in the middle loved him. How do you think he carried all of those southern states and southern democrats? Not to mention the rest of the country?!

    And don't dismiss Bush Sr. He was a serious candidate with a family history of powerful political connections and VERY deep pockets. The Bush family has been very wealthy for a long time.

    The pairing of Reagan and Bush was well done by the GOP. A California Governor with some charm, humor and speaking ability coupled with a wealthy southerner with powerful connections. It worked.
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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    No, Reagan had huge difficulties with the right. I'm going off of my memory here and that ain't perfect, but I do remember Reagan being denounced by many on the right for not being a "serious" candidate. Whatever that means.
    I remember the Country Club Republicans saying things like that, not the folks on the right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Once he won the nomination though people in the middle loved him. How do you think he carried all of those southern states and southern democrats? Not to mention the rest of the country?!
    Not by kissing moderate country club Republican ass, that's certain.


    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    And don't dismiss Bush Sr. He was a serious candidate with a family history of powerful political connections and VERY deep pockets. The Bush family has been very wealthy for a long time.
    I didn't dismiss him.

    I said he was a moderate turd, who, when he finally became president, screwed up terribly because....(drum roll)....he was a moderate...(rim shot).

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    The pairing of Reagan and Bush was well done by the GOP. A California Governor with some charm, humor and speaking ability coupled with a wealthy southerner with powerful connections. It worked.
    Can someone explain how Kennebunkport became a Southern Town?

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    Re: GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I remember the Country Club Republicans saying things like that, not the folks on the right.
    He certianly pissed off a lot of the oil people here in Texas.

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