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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without."
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
If you asked me whether I would like it if everyone had healthcare, I would say yes. If you asked me whether I would like it if everyone had healthcare and that were paid for by raising taxes and moving to a single-payer system, I would say no.
Do you see why it would be disingenuous to argue "Oh, he really wants everyone to have healthcare, he's just being lied to about the details of the whole proposal. He thinks its a good idea to move to a single-payer system and raise taxes."
I can guarantee that I've read more of it than you have.What other negative things are in the Bill? Have YOU read it?
Where did I say it was?It's not a "government takeover of your health care".
Where did I say there was?There is no public option in the Bill.
Setting aside the fact that that's not what the "death panel" i.e. cost-effectiveness panel issue should really be about, I would love it if they were in the bill.No panels to decide if the infirm, elderly or Palins grandson should continue to live.
Setting aside the fact that this is hardly settled, I don't really give a **** either way.No tax payer abortion funding.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Here is how I see it. It's not epic at all, but something to be expected, given the track record of the Democrats last year. They had control of everything. The word "epic" would normally apply to how badly the Democrats screwed things up last year, but knowing their past track record, and history of pulling defeats out of the jaws of victory, I don't think "epic" can really apply there either.
Look, if some dumb guy, like myself, on an internet forum, can call this election days before it happened, then why weren't the almighty pundits doing the same? Because they had to build up drama to increase their ratings. Isn't that why we call them media whores?
This wasn't rocket science folks, and certainly does not fall into the "epic" category either. The best candidate already had it won before the polls even opened.
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The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
Name the federal programs that's significantly reduced poverty.
WRONG. No federal program has reduced the poverty rate. It was declining on it's own just fine before the Great Society. It stopped declining when the Great Society was implemented, and has hovered around 11% ever since.
If Brown had defeated a living and healthy incumbent (Kennedy or Kerry), then yeah that's big news. But my feeling is either of those guys would have squashed Brown like a bug.
Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.
The funniest part of the Liberals getting their fifth points of contact getting spanked raw, is that it happened in not only the most Liberal state in the country, but the state that will be affected the least by Obamacare.